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    Greetings,

    this is a question for the nakayma users/specialists.
    I am getting into the natural japanese hones in respect to razor sharpening.
    I allready figured out most of the colours/attributes:

    Nashiji : freckled
    Shiro : white
    Asagi: is supposed to be light blue
    Karasu : crow (grey like a crow)
    and Kiiro : yellow

    but what does Kiita mean?
    I treid to check a translation but I only got
    Kiita = past of "to listen"/ listened

    Thanks for enlightening me

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    Thank you O_S!

    btw. does the colors or the attributes related with them translate to natural japenese from other mines?
    I mean for example will a Narutaki very light Asagi likely be slow cutting

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    thanks again

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    This is just a partly informed guess, but I think you are talking different regions and strata when you talk about Narutaki and the others. It is unlikely that you would get bits of asagi in a Narutaki for that reason, if I am correct (which I may not be...)

    But I do know, having several, that O_S is right about the narutakis. Generally a medium grit - anywhere from 6K to maybe 10K equivalent.

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    Just a FYI, I used the above characters to search 330mate.com's site. I was able to pull up pics of hones and then used babelfish to come up with a an interpretation and I could actually puzzle out some of what was being said.

    It was kind of interesting.

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    I have a wonderful kiita stone, but it is Ai-ishi not hon-kuchi. It is very even textured, and a little soft, a good cutter but not extremely fine.

    I think it shaves about like a coticule, approx 8k. and at least 1/2 the cost.

    Narutaki was a quarry on the east side of Mt. Atago, they can be extremely fine.

    I prepped a razor the other day using a takashima-tomae with a hard uchigumori for nagura. Previously I did not like this stone for razors. But this time I got the friendliest edge I'd ever felt. Plenty sharp, un-stropped and so smooth there was no way to nick.

    If you look on So's site you'll see there are 48 strata of tomae. Kiita is one (probably the most prized)of those.

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    thanks guys, I think it might have sounded like I was interested in a Narutaki,
    but thatīs not the case.

    Indeed I am looking for a Ohzuku. Are there any Informations about this one?
    It is incredibly hard to get j-nats inside the EU (without paying half the price of taxes )
    But I have the chance to buy an Ohzuku. They are different in color,
    from asagi to kiita. He told me there was no way he could officially claim these stones are indeed from ohzuku (they have the right stamp) but, and thatīs more important to me, those would give great results for sharpening razors
    wich he does, too

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