Which is better the norton 4/8K or the Naniwa 3/8K? Anyone know where these 2 are compared?
Just looking for experiences from guys that have used both.
Looking for some pros and cons also.
Thanks guys
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Which is better the norton 4/8K or the Naniwa 3/8K? Anyone know where these 2 are compared?
Just looking for experiences from guys that have used both.
Looking for some pros and cons also.
Thanks guys
I've used both, but not extensively. I just got to try the Naniwa's at the WNY meet with Lynn's guidance, and they are awesome stones. They cut really fast, they don't cut deep, and metal does not become embedded in the stones like it does on the Nortons. The Naniwa's also don't need to be soaked. I am totally sold on the Naniwas.
My routine for sometime now has been Naniwa 1k to set the bevel, pyramid on the Naniwa 3k and 5k and finish on the 8k. I usually test shave and then if I want to I go to the 12k for further refinement. I am liking the results I'm getting with this on all of the razors I've done it with and that is a couple of dozen. The Norton is a tried and true stone too though and I like them but I've come to like the Naniwas better. Just IMHO.
Get the Naniwa. I wish they'd been around, or I'd been aware of them, when I got my norton. Much better stones. Though I only have a nawina 1k, its really impressed me. I think that the Nawina combo should dethrone the norton as the recommended newbie stone. They're higher grit, you'll never "grow out of them" and feel a need to get better stones in that grit range, and they have a great feel to them.
I have the opportunity to shave with a razor that Jimmy honed on his Naniwas and that was finished on the Naniwa 12k. It is a sweet smooth shaver.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Between the two, go with the Nani's. I would, however, recommend that you get the 3k and 5k though. There is a big spread between the 3 and 8 and it will take you much much longer to finish honing. JMHO
Ray
The 3K 5K and 8K??? oh Lord I need a raise!!!
Can one shave off a 5K? Would it not need a little on an 8K before going for it?
Yes, you can shave off the 5k.
Ray
For just touching up, would an Naniwa 8k be the way to go?
Several options are available to you. If it is between honings - barbers hone, hard balsa with crox. If it needs more 8k nani would work and so would a 12k.
Enjoy!
Ray
I have used both naniwas and nortons i have to go with nortons. Why i just preferd the combo norton and i found it easier to get results due to being my first ever hone i only hone with coticule now but i'd never get rid of my norton 1k 4k 8k norton its agreat hone to learn on and all you will ever need .
Does the norton not fill up with metal? What to do at that point? Lap? I do Not like having to soak for 15 min. What ate the advantages of the norton compared to the naniwas? Are there any? I have read they provide more feedback. That is a plus for a newbi.
The stones are graded on two different scales, the Naniwa has finer abrasives. The Norton uses ceramic abrasive in a clay binder, and the Naniwa is ceramic in a resin binder. Nortons can take some soaking, while the Naniwas shouldn't.
I'm assuming the combo is a Nani superstone. You don't need to soak those, you spritz them. The naniwa are softer then the norton. As stated above, the Nani are on a finer grit system then the norton. If you do a search you'll see people love the nanis. I don't remember anyone saying that they loved their norton.
I think me and Sham are the only two who are crazy enough to be in love with a rock. :gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete_S
Nope, you aren't the only ones...I love my Nani's as well. I actually have a few Kings that I use for rough work that are great. Love'em enough to have made a polishing bench/table for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
I dunno, the way some of these people talk about the naniwas, I'm pretty sure they've invited them to the homecoming dance. I can't say I blame them, if they all feel as nice and polish as well as my nani 1k does, I might too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
I've just succeded with my first honing to HHT.Quote:
Originally Posted by krisbarger
Setup:
Naniwa 1K - Bevel setting
Pyramid:
Naniwa 3k and 5k
Finishing:
Barber hone with soap
Denim strop - lots of stropping
Leather strop - lots of stropping
Haven't honed any other razors, but yes you can get there from 5k Naniwa (and Barber hone is pretty cheap to buy).
All the best,
Michael
All this talk is making think of the 3/8 combo instead of the Norton--$80 from Woodcraft + sales tax (nearly 10% here:rant:) vs. $90 for a finer, faster cutting combo that doesn't need soaking. Might need to save some pennies so I can get the felt strop/diamond spray in the same go & save on shipping...:)
Anybody used both? (The 3/8 combo, I mean.)
I have both, including the entire Naniwa line. I'd go with Naniwa. No soaking, fast cutting. Once you get them lapped, (under running water) swarf tends to build up. They're great. They are my go to workhorse stones. If I wasn't so sentimental, I'd sell my Nortons. Damm this HAD.....
The 3 and 8 would be a good combo. I like to switch it once in a while, 5/10 or 3/8 or 3,5,8..Less strokes more hones, or vice versa, whatever works for you....
I was just re-reading this thread, and I realized I didn't mention it in my previous post (or maybe my first post was from before I went to visit Lynn but after he came to the meet...), but I prefer the 5k and 8k to the 3k and 8k.