Hi dear friend,
im looking for a naniwa waterstone but im confused. There are some kind or words on them ebi -lobster or shrimp ? Which one is useful for Straight Razors? Whats meaning of these ?
Regards.
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Hi dear friend,
im looking for a naniwa waterstone but im confused. There are some kind or words on them ebi -lobster or shrimp ? Which one is useful for Straight Razors? Whats meaning of these ?
Regards.
99% sure they are the same stone.
Can you post a link to the store or pic of the stone?
hi there,
i hope im not doing wrong to post links here..Mod if this is not possible please delete my links..
here link for lobster:#12000 Grit Ceramic Whetstone by NANIWA LOBSTER
here link for ebi but 10K Japanese Naniwa whetstone "Super stone" #10000 - eBay (item 250574466506 end time Mar-05-10 08:24:54 PST)
also confused the stone made by resin method or magnesia method..
some color is pink some of them white or clear green..
Any idea about this one:
Japanese whetstone sharpening stone #10000 grid !! PB - eBay (item 250580953171 end time Feb-18-10 00:33:15 PST)
i think seller thinks it is close naniwa chocera 10 k but i dont know really good or not..
Regards.
Melyus: Your first and second links are to Naniwa Super Stones - this is the line many of us use for straights. I don't know what hone your third link is to; never seen one before.
If you click the link gssixgun posted, you'll see the Naniwa 12k and 10k superstones for much less than the first two links you posted.
Thanks for reply i sent mail to SRD to learn naniwa12k to internationally..if price is ok by me i will decide to buy..
Regards.
That third stone some people have tried for sharpening knives but it never got popular ,because its hard to beat Super Stone and Chosera. As Holly said above the first two are superstones, I got my 10k SS from metalmasterjp.
Firstly i have to thanks you are very nice advice to my need..Quote:
Originally Posted by mainaman
Just ı want to know that : are there big differences between 10k and 12k naniwa ? if you tried both? because if there arent big differences no need to search i will buy 10 k directly..
Regards.
the 12k is more popular because it fits progression better than the 10k. People use 1k, 3 or5k ,8k, 12k roughly jumps by 4k to the next grit. I have never tried the 12k but I have not heard anybody not liking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by melyus
ok than i will wait SRD shipping international cost answer so if it is ok by me i will buy from there. otherwise i will search for 12 k other shops or jump metalmasterjp 10K 20mm because only 5 usd shipping cost..
Thanks so much.
Best Wishes.
PB on the 3rd stone title means "Private Brand". It basically is one he gets direct from a manufacturer. These are also made by the "magnesia method" same as Naniwa Super or Chocera. That doesn't mean that they are equal just made by a similar method.
Ok i m buying from SRD but are there any discount code for SRP members for buy it..
Regards.
Finally I Bought my naniwa 12000 from SRD ...
Thanks to all my good advisors..
Greetings to all..
The Superstones come in two different thicknesses: 10mm and 20mm (3/8"
& 3/4"). The thick ones are more expensive.
I have the 10K and the 12K Superstones. I'm not a pro, but so far I haven't been able to tell much difference.
So is the 12k Superstone magnesia or resin based? I thought the Chosera was the magnesia based one and the SS the resin based one using the same abrasives.
I think you are right. It was my mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by cotdt
The Naniwa abrasive company has made quite a few different stones.
The first thing to know is the mascot of the Naniwa company is a lobster.
Thatīs why you will always find that shrimp-ish looking thing on the naniwa stones.
Lobster in japanese is called "ebi".
The first series Naniwa produced has been called Naniwa "lobster",
or in japanese "ebi".
So sometimes confusingly any type of Naniwa Stone is being referred to as "ebi".
That particular series (sometimes called mircon as well, I believe) has been sintered and nothing to do with the outstanding naniwa stones we use today.
Rising, the Naniwa Company introduced the Naniwa Superstones, the Choseras, the "workstones" and one called junpaku.
The Superstones consist of white Al2O3 wich acts as abrasive and is bond in a resin type epoxy.
They come in bright colours and go up to 12.000.
These are the most common and most referred to hones.
Usually, when somebody speaks of Naniwa, he speaks about the Superstones.
I believe the superstones are the best polishing stones out there.
By that, I mean their ability to brightly polish a bevel.
They usually produce very even and shallow scratches for their particular grit size.
Sometimes these are available as combination stones in 800/5000 and 3000/8000
The superstones come in either 10mm or 20mm, wich has to be taken into consideration if calculating the price of a Stone.
Some vendors sell them glued to a plastic stand, others sell them as a brick.
The Chosera, or Chou-Cera (wich means super ceramics) are way more expensive.
These are believed to consist of white Al2O3 bond in chemically produced Magnesia (MgCO3).
These produce more pronounced scratches for their relative grit,
than the Superstones do. The scratches are wide, but not deep, so they can be polished out easily. They are better at sharpening, and somewhat quicker at removing metal, though. I find them less rubbery in the lower grit range, so I prefer these in the lower range like 1k and 5k,
while finishing and polishing is done with the 8k SS or 10k SS
The Chosera are availiable only up tp 5.000 and there is a special chocera that comes in 10.000, but is unbelievably expensive.
It pretty much looks like the Naniwa Super 10k, wich is only half the price.
To tell the difference 100%:
The superstones have the grit size written on one end of the stone,
combined with a "SS". So if the writing says "SS-10.000" itīs a superstone.
Then there is a low end working or homestone in 1000/3000.
Extremely cheap but ... well low end.
And one more speciality, the junpaku 8.000.
A pure white magnesia bond 8.000 hone with good polishing properties.
Has nothing to do with the Chocera line.
I totally prefer the 8k Superstone
Sooooo, if you are looking for a Naniwa Sharpening stone,
you either choose the Superstones, or the Chosera.
If the hone says neither the firts, nor the latter,
it maybe isnīt the stone you are looking for.
I see the OT found a reliable source for a stone and hope this helps other people =)