Just picked this one up, could any one tell me anything about it seems to be a mysterious little hone.
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Just picked this one up, could any one tell me anything about it seems to be a mysterious little hone.
i have couple similar ones. theyare very fine. i never had chance to test them but will do so tomorrow.
I also have one and also have not used mine yet. But...Robert Williams ( Papabull) has used them and likes them.
Note that on the box it says distributed by Peter J. Michaels. well, they did not sell any junk, all their products that I have seen have been top notch.
BTW, I almost outbid you on that hone!:D They rarely come up for sale.
I have one but it is rectangular. I also bought mine under PapaBull's suggestion. Cant say that I have had much luck with it but haven't gone all out in testing it either
I've got an oval one and a rectangular one with rounded edges. They are both very fine barber hones. They work well for touch ups and produce a fine edge. They are quite soft and extremely light-weight (low density). They are different from most barber hones in that they don't feel anything like a stone. They really feel more like you're honing a piece of plastic, but somehow it works.
They're a great touchup and final finishing hone, in my opinion. But don't drop it because it will break every time. It's at it's best for enhancing the edge on a razor that's already well honed.
Thank you i don't need to test it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaBull
Thanks for the great info.
Every time? I hope that you did not use a sample size sufficiently large enough to make this a statistically significant statement!Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaBull
You really should anyway. It just feels weird, but in a good way!Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl
i just tried lap that stone. darn harder then carborundum. seems like peace of wood but cannot lap it.
I just tried lapping one of mine and you're right. I forgot about that. This is odd because the hone feels soft when honing.
Will I be able to lap this hone with my Dmt8c and does this hone need to be soaked or can it be used dry?
Yes, you can lap it with your DMT8C, but it will take a while. You certainly don't need to soak this hone as it is non-porous. I do believe that you can use this one dry or wet, but water tends to bead off of it so I prefer to use diluted lather.
The instructions with mine recommend rubbing a little petroleum jelly into it thoroughly every few months. No need for water or oil, just make sure you use a little vaseline when it begins to dry...maybe every 3 months to a year depending on how much use it sees
What I've been doing with barber hones is scrubbing them to get any gunk off and not lapping them. I try them first and see if they work alright without lapping and in many cases they do. I don't like to take the original finish off. I use mine dry when I use them which is rarely.
For those that own one and have lapped them, does the hone load the lapping plate?
A shellac based hone is very light, feels nothing like stone, seems soft when using but is very hard to lap. Shellac based hones seem to load in random areas of the lapping plate though.
Chris L
Chris you got it dead on. :bowQuote:
Originally Posted by ChrisL
It loads my DMT8XX and everything you described fits it, so apparently this is a shellac based hone.
I had a hunch. I think you know what I'm talking about, Ron, but for those that aren't sure what I mean about "loading". Think of using a piece of sandpaper to sand some woodwork that is coated with urethane, etc. After use, you'll see some random areas where there are hardened built up bits that are elevated above the surface of the sandpaper and quickly reduce the effectiveness of the sandpaper.
I'm only taking a stab in the dark on this Ruby hone since I don't own one in regard to its composition.
Chris L
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Originally Posted by JMS
Feel free to send it my way, I will be happy to test it out thoroughly for you.
And if you have not had much luck with it, you might want to be rid of such an unworthy chunk of space killing red rot before it brings bad juju your way.... Just sayin is all
A shellac based hone is best lapped by using a wet/dry sandpaper whetted with a lot of water, and keep it very wet.
Use very light pressure, almost none. It will take a bit of time to get it flat initially but it can be done. I have started with a 400 grit and see what rate of change you experience ,drop to a 220 only if necessary. The 220 will load up easier. If the sandpaper starts to load up then take a paring knife and scrape it off the sandpaper.
Hope this helps,:)
I've had three. I've still got one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
I realize this is an old thread. I did a search and guess where it brought me..... I just picked one of these up frensler ruby hone in a box lot with a Double duck and a BBB barbers hone. Feels very light weight and not like a stone at all. Sounds like lapping is a pita. Anyone use one? and is it a barbers hone?
The instructions sheet for the Fenslers hone says says: " For quick cutting results give a few strokes on the bottom side either dry or with lather. Finish on top dry." and also "to wash with warm water every couple of months and rub a little Vaseline into the stone with the palm of your hand."Quote:
Originally Posted by Trimmy72
Somebody did once write that the Fenslers Ruby is 18-20K and along with the Lakeside barber hone the finest barber available and a well kept secret within SRP veterans to not trigger prices up.
Lapping is a bit strange and hard since it "clogges" the DMT or sheets very fast
Mine looks like the one in this picture link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dogwelder/3695986177/
I also purchased one off the bay and it needed lapping in a big way. I did not find it to be a hard stone at all, if fact it was much softer than it looks. An unusual stone for sure.
I lapped both sides about 50 circles on glass plate with 120g SIC powder. I then followed up with my normal progression of Atoma 140, 400, then 1200 under a drip of water fairly quickly. I then applied Vaseline a let it soak it up overnight. I will add more until it stops taking it. then a little kerosene to clean and then it should be ready to go for another year or so.
Easy Peasy......
I will test in the next few days.
Dave
You may also be interested in the testing done by MODINE
http://www.razorandstone.com/showthr...Ruby-hone-test
A very nice Barber Hone and one of my favs....great for Touch ups....
I really like the edges how these come from the Fernsler!!
It makes sense that I'd dmt plates or wet dry paper clogs up that loos grit would lap it quickly and effectively..
Yeah, using loose grit on glass, mo' better. Then there is the Atoma Diamond plate, also mo' better. I use #140, #400, #1200.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezpz
Here is the paper that comes with it :<0)
Attachment 186290
+1...Easily in the top 10 of all the Barber Hones I own in my opinion...And I have a LOT OF BH's!Quote:
Originally Posted by doorsch
Wow! you made me go count....darn near 50 Bhones....Way too many. I still have about 30 to lap. (I'm too old for this).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfpack34
