HAD authorities, what do you think this is?

It is 7.5 x 1.25 inches, and 3-4mm thick attached to a wooden strop. I have given it a lapping which took about 10 mins on a DMTC and I still have work to do on it. Slurry is a white colour with a green tint to it.

This hone is a green and grey colour, although it looks more grey in the pictures. I have given it a quick test and it has excellent feedback. I have a feeling it maybe more coarse than an Escher but have not really tested it yet. I have shown it in the second pic, next to a coti. The final pic shows it between an Escher (Barber's Delight) and a Charnley on the bottom.

I have absolutely no idea, Im thinking perhaps some sort of Tam or Scotch hone? Im sure it is for razors due to its size and the fact it was attached to a strop.
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Extra shots:

1) Close up next to Escher
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2) The back side
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I have given the hone a little testing.

I used a 6/8 Rodgers hollow. Blunted until it failed to shave arm hair. Raised a thick slurry using a DMT, then 2 sets of 20 circles either side then 20 laps, then another 20 laps. Then another 20 laps. Bingo, its shaves arm hair. Interestingly the feedback I got was like my slowest cutting coticule. It felt more like a coti than any other natural I have used. So it may be used to set bevels on a razor without any nicks. Not recommended however, and slower than a medium cutting coticule.

Attempted dilucot, using 5 dilutions. Eventually after 200-250 laps in total I am able to pass hanging hair test with a little pressure. Probably a slightly better finish than a BBW. I think I could have worked harder and achieved better results.

Naniwa 3k - a set of 20 circles either side, then 20 laps.

Naniwa 8K - 40 laps until HHT after a stropping. So at the known 8K level.

Now, 50 laps on the natural stone using just water. Nice feedback after the first 10. Shiny bevel and an improvement to the edge. Pass HHT after stropping to a better degree than the 8K.

Then I took a razor honed of a Charnley. One of my 7 day Goedeke and Co Solingens, also 6/8 hollow. (Well 13/16s). Similar razor, similar size and grind. It degraded the Charnleys edge and would not pass HHT as easily as Charnley after stropping.

Conclusion so far: I have spent maybe 40 mins playing with the hone. I have found it may be used to set bevels and will do so very slowly. Dilucot is also possible, and I think with more time and laps I could have achieved a better result. Definitely improves the 8K Naniwa's edge. Degrades Charnley's edge. Charnley is around 15K, maybe more - slighly (marginally) sharper than Escher which is estimated around 12-15K. At this point I have no synthetics after 8K, so it is hard to say exactly what grit this green hone is, although it is definitely 8K<15K. To touch it feels less smooth than an Escher or Charnley.

I think the hone is probably around coticule finish. I do not know what it is, but I looked at a Cutler's Green on Olivia's website and this is the closest thing I have seen to it.

I'm thoroughly disappointed that not one of you has even a suggestion as to what this hone is.

It looks like a stone I had but sold to Oldengaerde because I didn't like it. It was pretty though :)

I don't think Oldengaerde has figured out yet what it is. I could post some pics of it tomorrow. It's just a matter of waiting for the right person to see your pics.

Thanks Piet. I look forward to seeing your pics. I reckon it is a Cutler's Green. I can't find much info on them, but there's little else it could be, for it is green with dark green flecks..and hones around the 8K level.

cutle-green should be fine stone as far as i know.
this stone doesn't look like escher,
it May be some thuringian stone.
i have at least 3 thuringians which don't know what it is. just test and see how it works.
that is the best option.
My thurinigans i test all 3 and they all below Escher or old thuringian level.
hope this helps.

I hate to disappoint but I didn't comment because I have no idea what it might be. :shrug:

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I hate to disappoint but I didn't comment because I have no idea what it might be. :shrug:

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Same here. I'm reminded of the episode of Cheers when Cliff, the trivia king, was asked in final jeopardy what three celebrities (whom I don't recall) had in common? Cliff answered with the question "Who are three people who have never been in my living room?":roflmao
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Regarding your stone I can only say that it has never been in my living room.
I haven't got a clue what it is but I look forward to your finding out. Keep in mind that Howard, wayward SRP member and proprietor of The Perfect Edge, is a geologist. Maybe you could ask him?

A_S would be another one to ask. If it turns out you have a Devonshire Oilstone you'll probably be able to retire. :rock:

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Same here. I'm reminded of the episode of Cheers when Cliff, the trivia king, was asked in final jeopardy what three celebrities (whom I don't recall) had in common? Cliff answered with the question "Who are three people who have never been in my living room?":roflmao
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Regarding your stone I can only say that it has never been in my living room.
I haven't got a clue what it is but I look forward to your finding out. Keep in mind that Howard, wayward SRP member and proprietor of The Perfect Edge, is a geologist. Maybe you could ask him?

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Same here, the more I looked at it, the less sure I was. Whatever happened to Howard anyway, the guy sure knew his stones.

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Same here, the more I looked at it, the less sure I was. Whatever happened to Howard anyway, the guy sure knew his stones.

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I figure we should start a petition and demand his return.

My first thoughts were that it's some sort of slate. No one else thinking along those lines?

Here are pictures of the one I had. The bottom was pretty rough, slate like I think. It was originally used with oil.

It feels smooth except for the middle, it may be coarser than a Coticule.

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I'm thoroughly disappointed that not one of you has even a suggestion as to what this hone is.

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It looks a bit like the Llyn Idwal welsh oilstone that I have - not quite as good as a CF, but close!

Regards,
Neil

Its definitely nowhere near a Charnley Neil...do you think it may be a Cutler's Green?

There is so little info out there on the Cutlers that I just don't have a clue. I don't think it is a slate as the slurry produced is white with a slightest hint of the shade of green of the hone. I think slates have dark slurry as far as I know...

I've been playing with the hone a fair bit and its not the most useful of hones. Then again life would be dull if all hones were highly efficient.

Piet - I think that's the same stone! Yours is extremely thin like mine too, literally a few mm. Did you use yours at all?

My stone wasn't that thin, more than 2cm I think. I did use it several times expecting it to be a fine finisher like a Charnley which it wasn't. It was sold to me as one. I couldn't tell if the stone had a uniform grit or if the middle was coarser which was a bit frustrating.

Reading about your experience I now think the whole stone has the same grit but just feels a bit different in the middle.

Recently I bought another one just like it. Grey with a hint of green, definately softer than a CF or Llyn Idwal and not as smooth. The straight transitions seem to be characteristic for this stone. It's 24 x 5 x 3 cm in size.