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Hello all, I was looking around for some info to help me just clean a hone that I purchased here at an estate sale recently. No idea what type it is, I have no experience with these, but I did buy it in hopes I can use it someday to sharpen razors with.:)
For $1 I couldn't pass it up. Would just using some dawn soap and giving it a good scrub with say maybe an SOS pad be good? I'll be placing it away for awhile with another stone until I can give them more time.
Thanks for the help!
you can lap it that should clean up the honing surface.
As far as sides I personally would lap them too (if the stone is not glued ina box or something) , but if you have something less aggressive that works use it.
Yeah that's something I'll do eventually is lap it. Might not want to do that right now with just sandpaper though. Definitely not glued in no box. It's free to run and play!
I still have a lot of reading up on stuff to do. Well rereading actually, it's just not staying in the head at this moment. Someday though. :)
If you could post a photo that would help to ID the hone. If it has been used with oil your best bet is easy off 'no fume' oven cleaner. If it is just swarf and dirt try a nylon bristle brush under the tap and then lapping with sandpaper or better a diamond plate. 325 grit or thereabouts is what you want. Here is a tutorial on lapping.
Here's some pictures of the stone, although they aren't quite good at night. My camera skills leaves much to be desired, and I could probably use a better camera as well. :rofl2:
Well...thanks for the pics!
That is one dirty hone!:) use Oven Cleaner, several applications and scrub with a brush. Then take some 220 grit sandpaper and try lapping it. Let us know how it laps. Based on the dimensions I suspect this is a coarse, man made hone.
+1 on cleaning that hone with "no fume" Easy Off oven cleaner. Make sure the room is well ventilated or better do it outside. It is very grimy, but I am an optimist, and am going to say you may have gotten very lucky and there is a double sided Belgian coticule/BBW under all the dreck. Good luck! Please post the *after* pictures! What are the dimensions?
The dimensions are 2" wide by 8" long croaker. The nylon brush would be fine to clean off the hone with the Easy Off No Fume Oven Cleaner right?
I'll post pictures as soon as I get it cleaned off. It might take a little while, but I'll make sure to follow up. I also have another hone that is definitely cleaner than the other one here, and thought I might as well post a few pics of this one as well. It even has a tiny section of the label left on one side, but it's just an 'n' at the very end. I don't think the n helps much, but maybe the style will of the label. It is 2" wide by 9" long.
See if you can find a match for your 'n' between the labels in this thread http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...nd-labels.html :)
:roflmao
As I scrolled down through the photos, I was starting to think, that kind of looks like a Thurinigian and then I got to the last photo. Yup, it is a Thuringian, the best kind!
That little fragment of a label on the end on your hone increases it's value 10 fold! Protect that little bit of paper.
Great news to hear! I was hoping the hone would be something good!
Looking at the dirty grimy stuff made me think it was a carbo cheap stone at first. lucky man!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
If Utopian is offering 10 fold, I will raise to 11!!:)
Not offering, just admiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingfish
But 11 is one louder, isn't it!
Actually that was a second stone I had from a few months back. I still haven't cleaned the original stone I showed, but I'll try to get the stuff at least today to get it cleaned. Might have a surprise awaiting on that stone as well!
You lucky duck! and a green one at that!:tu
True, and great humor, but 11 fold of the 1 dollar he paid for it would be a great deal!!!!:) So, 11 fold is still my offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Seriously, good luck with your Thurry.
Would this mean to chill out on the oven cleaner idea? only if oily?
I hope to be just like you some day Koosh. I know there's a dollar stone waiting for me somewhere.
Paid 4 dollars for the thurry actually. I'm working on cleaning up the first mystery hone at this moment. Stubborn fellow! :matrix:
Edit: And here are the pictures of the first hone I had in question cleaned three times with Easy Off. Still some dirt, and I guess oil in about the same spots. Just won't come off even trying hot water and soap and scrubbing on it.
Arkansas, maybe Washita :shrug:
Yes, maybe. Given how little of that label is left, if it were my hone and I ever considered that I might sell it :roflmao, I would probably cover the label with clear lacquer or nail polish in order to protect it to retain it's re-sale value. Then, oven cleaner would be okay for the rest of it if there seems to be any oily residue. Otherwise, I'd just lap it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevint
By the way, this is completely off topic, but do not buy anything from the seed company under that hone. They go by many names including:
Additional DBA Names: Richard Owen Nursery
Farmer Seed & Nursery
Four Seasons Nursery
Inter-State Nurseries
Exciting Gardens
Royal Dutch Gardens
Honeycreek Nurseries, LLC
Kelly Nurseries
Plantron, Inc.
Burgess Seed & Plant Company
Direct Gardening
By any name, they are rip off artists. They have pretty catalogs but they send crap. Read online reviews if you don't believe me. I bought a few things from them and they were all dead or worse. How can they be worse than dead you ask? I bought 4 trees that were supposed to be 18" high. What I got were 4 STICKS--not a single hint of a leaf, or bud, or even anything resembling a root. I actually had a hard time figuring out which end I should put in the dirt. Getting money back from them is an exercise in futility. They tell you to give the plants a chance to recover from shipping and then they tell you that you waited too long to request a refund.
Agreed, washita most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
Thank you all for the help! It is much appreciated! For just a few dollars I got some excellent hones that will serve me well as I get into honing!
I'll definitely cover the label up with some nail polish before I actually use it Utopian. A very good idea. I might find straight razors aren't for me, but I'm highly doubting it. It's something that has always interested me. And a thank you on the magazine as well! I'll make sure not to give them any business!
Just one last question for the assumed Arkansas Wachita. Is it clean enough? They may not look as dirty as it was before, but it still has a good bit left, but after 3 times with the Easy Off Fume Free I just couldn't get anything more. Soap and water was of no help either to finish off with. I tried to lap it as well, and I had to stop after an hour and a half. I'll wait to get a DMT 325 grit stone to lap the hones!
Looks yust fine :) & yeah diamond plates are great for lapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by kooshman7
If it is Washita then 1.5 hour of lapping is not a lot. If you want to ry to get more out try to put it into into a bucket of salt, or powdered chalk and leave it somewhere realy warm. This often helps otherwise you would have to lap off a lot of stone.
Thanks again for all the help with identifying the stones and what to do! It is much appreciated! I should be good on the questions for now. :)
The oven cleaner is a good way to get rid of a lot of crud really fast but now you have seen its limits.
One other idea.... a few years back I was told to use "Starter Fluid" as a cleaner because it is pure ether and dissolves most everything. I have used it on other things but so far not on a hone. Maybe worth a try?
Paint stripper, toulene, MEK?
Just my $.02,:)
Maybe not such a good idea on some of the barber hones though, huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by randydance062449
Good point. Maybe not for some man made hones but I was thinking of the Arkansas type hones.
I think the problem with these stones is that they are porous ant the muck gets withthe oil deeply inside. I have tried before to use spray which is used for cleaning disc brakes which did get the oil off however the muck stayed inside.
Hmmm...maybe a soak in a tank filled with a solvent then alternately apply pressure & vacuum?
Just some random thoughts,:)
Cleaning the stone will make it look nicer but it won't make it better. Some stones used with oil can be cleaned after which they can be used with water. However a Washita works best with oil in my experience, water just rolls off.
After lapping the surface will already look cleaner. I would leave it at that because it will get dirty again from use.
A Washita also works great for scissors and knives, because it's pretty coarse, about 600-1k.
Thank you again for the help. I'll leave this stone as it is. I'm just a perfectionist at heart but if you say it's good, I'll use it just as it is. Sometimes a perfectionist isn't good. :roflmao