Thread: My [large] natural Coticule/BB hone...

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Nothing personal, I just can't help myself .....

Originally Posted by Lynn

Saw that coming...............

Awhile ago.............

Ok this is one of those times,, I reserve them for very special moments...


I Told You So !!! dead on target...

Don't you guys just get tired of being right?????

To the OP, apologies for the parts...

That is a nice looking stone, I have one that is very similar on the Yellow side... Very pale even color with a very light graining that you really have to look to see...

I have a stone the same size i just recently purchased. It looks to be about the same shade although the picture can be deceiving to say the least. Its a great stone when you want to take some metal down fast and its a decent finisher as well.

Hi,

If I understand correctly what is being reacted to here, there seems to be a common misunderstanding in play. What Nick (Disburden) refers to is "qualities" of stones, coticules, that are similar enough due to vein to classify. This has nothing to due with "quality" unless you want to make a personal value judgment as to what you think a good hone should do.

As is frequently mentioned regarding grit ratings of natural stones, all natural stones are different. Yes, but we can classify natural objects according to general characteristics. In the current case of coticule veins, it is possible to be rather specific (with a margin of error).

For example, I would assume Jimmy's blotchy pink coticule to generate so much slurry during honing that one could easily never arrive at a shave ready edge if heavy slurry is utilized with a slurry stone (at least without some fast diluting). It is probably also excellent and fast with just water. I could be wrong, but if I tried that stone, those are the qualities I would be paying attention to.

We want maximum keeness in a razor, among other things. Coticules that are found to do that quickly with a minimum of skill will be valued over those that require more fiddling. These values, of course, could also change.

So pricing by vein? After a reasonably reliable classification is possible (as is the case)? Sure. We do it with everything else.

regards,
Torolf

What I was saying, is a coticule that is in the La Veinette layer, that used to cost 123EUROS is now going to cost 400+ EUR is due to the cutting in slurry "quality" of the stone as in cutting characteristics. Not because of the grade such as "Select" and "Standard" as in the visual clean appearance of the stone.

There will still be quality verification on Ardennes such as a stone being select or Standard but also a layer pricing difference based on demand of popular layers or what some honers would consider a "Better" cutter.

Either way this will change the whole idea of how coticules are purchased by customers and sold by vendors. I personally think charging someone a few hundred Euros (which is a big difference in the US) more for a layer compared to another layer is a bad idea because now collectors are only going to want the more expensive "Escher priced" layers that can be resold at crazy prices. You are going to see hybrid sided coticules on Ebay for 500.00-650.00USD because of this, which used to be thought of as unsaleable stones due to their appearance in the grading process.