Printable View
NATURAL SHARPENING STONE IN DECORATIVE HARDWOOD BASE on eBay (end time 27-Feb-11 19:02:48 GMT)
anyone from the forum? again using a sniping program....
people need to realise using a sniping program just pushes the price up way too high for everyone. so stupid.
It's not the sniping that drives up the price. It's simply the market. This stone went for what -- around $165 ? It sold for that much because that was what someone was willing to pay for it. Vintage stones have been going up steadily, maybe people are actually speculating, but that's their right.
I have seen these sell for almost 300.00USD so that really isn't a bad price for what they are usually going for now a days.
Sniping doesn't drive up the market it's the people or collectors bidding early days before the auction ends that drives up the market.
no not in this case or many of cases. it was 31 pounds until the last few seconds, then leaped to the max bid of a sniper of 102 pounds. if this person hadnt been using this program it would have stayed lower and saved 60 or more pounds!
people are just pushing up prices with this sort of behaviour with sniping programs, certainly a different thing to demand. if they just used some sense, they could have had it for a lot cheaper and saved themselves a lot of money, thats where the stupidity lies!
A lot of these things are becoming collectable just like Escher stones are. There is a market of collectors out there too who don't even hone razors that collect Eschers which is why they are 700.00 some times, not just from razor users.
Just think about how high coticules will sell for when the mines close and run out of resources, they hundreds of dollars and are still available.
You really don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistol
Ron, please don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
@ Pistol. Sniper programs have absolutely nothing to do with raising the cost of auctioned items, a maximum bid is a maximum bid, wether it is through ebay or a snipe program. Even it it was not sniped it would have brought the same price. All sniper programs do is to finish the bid war in the last few seconds rather than through the entirety of the listings lifespan. Snipe bids are not privileged.
A case can be made for the fact that sniping programs have the opposite effect from running up the prices. What they do is bid at the last moment thus preventing someone who hasn't already bid from topping their maximum bid. They deprive others of the chance to further run up the final bid, and, in so doing, they actually tend to keep the maximum bid lower than it might be if someone else had the opportunity, and the desire, to bid even higher.
maybe he knows something about some new ebay policy.:shrug:... RAAAAAIGHT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
When someone bids, sniping at the very end or earlier, the bid increment only goes up by an amount of a few bucks/pounds relative to the previous bid. While it is true that the stone remained at the 31 pounds until right before the end the last 4 bids came in at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pistol
Look at the bid history. If two individual bidders hadn't been fighting it out the stone wouldn't have gone for as much as it did. IOW, if one person had sniped the final value would only be one bid increment over whatever the previous bidder's high bid was. Not necessarily what was displayed on screen before the end. It is not as confusing as my attempt to explain it makes it seem. :shrug:
I've loose this stone for only 2 Pounds. I don't use snipe program and I've not idea what is this, I'm a sniper without program.:aargh:
Well buddy, check the price of finishers, folks feel like they are worth _____ (insert price here)...I wouldn't take 4 times that winning amount for my charnley...what I am getting at is that we all have different budgets and different ideas on what is "high" on a ebay item.
Don't be a sore looser...sniping isn't what drove up that price, it's bidders. I personally feel that sniping actually keeps prices lower.
Bid the highest price you are willing to pay, and don't complain. If I'm willing to pay $100,000 for a rock, then that is my max bid. If I put it in 20 days ahead of time and 50 people do the same, it bids up at the end. There is no sniping. It is auto bid.
A true sniper chooses an amount he's willing to pay for it and sticks to it. An emotional bidder doesn't have a max amount, but chooses an amount based on the current highest bid. So if the emotional bidder knew how much the sniper was bidding he would be willing to pay more.
Take the CF I won last for example. It wasn't an obvious one but I was pretty sure about it so I had put in a good bid at Gixen. I was either getting it for what it was worth (to me) or cheaper, beating anyone with doubt.
There were 8 bids before me, all very low, but if I had bid early and these bidders would have noticed their small bids didn't give them the winning bid they would have tried to increase their bids. They would have started thinking they're bidding on a mystery stone but then realized that apparently someone thought it was valuable and put in bids worthy of a good stone and maybe even realized that it was a CF.
I'm sure that sniping saved me at least GBP40 on that stone.