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Whats the Deal?
Looking up honing stones, i've seen some stupid expensive hones.. why is that? is there something wrong with something like what i'm shopping for below?
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Amazon.com: Woodstock D1130 1000 Grit and 6000 Grit Japanese Waterstone: Home Improvement
Please help!
i'm trying to find something in a similar price range and grit selection.. i want something that i can use for regular upkeep and something if i need to put a new edge on one.. hence the 1000/6000 grit choices.
any and all information or feedback would be greatly appreciated.. new to honing
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What are your plans for the stones?
Do you need to start from scratch/as in setting a bevel/ or are you just wanting to bring an edge 'back'!??
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just trying to keep my edge's alive.. i'm not restoring or anything. i was thinking the 1000 grit for if i've got a lil more work to do.. just keeping my edge alive would be my most common use for the hone.. i sorta thought 6000 would be good for that
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For general upkeep, I'd go with either a Swaty, which can be had for usually under $25 on ebay, or a pasted strop. You really don't need anything under 8K unless you need more than a blade refresh.JMO
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I would think that the 6000 would be too coarse for finishing! I have experimented with shaving from a 1000 through a 12000. Trust me, it gets better as the blade becomes more 'Polished!'
Try this link! Let me kow how it goes!!
http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...lynn-glen.html
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The way I see it the more expensive stones have to do with how they are made, the abrasive, how fast it works the finish it leaves etc.
Your pic shows what looks like King 1/6k combo which is two nice stones but the 1k is a bit slow and a bit soft compared to other 1k stones that are popular for razor honing. There is nothing wrong with going for King 1k, it is more of a personal choice what to go for rather than anything else, when we are talking about personal honing.
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maybe a 4000/8000 norton..? 80$ is a lil more than i had in mind.. but if thats what i need
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Just some food for thought:
1. Not a single one of the 30 reviews on that website were from a razor user.
2. Not many folks here would shave off a 6k on purpose.
3. Lots of folks here use a 4/8k Norton.
4. A barber hone is likely the cheapest alternative tho not appropriate for repair work on chips etc.
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The way I see it you have a couple routes you can go
1 Pasted Strops get Dovo red and black and you will be set for awhile (probably set you back 10 dollars and some leather) Eventually will need a hone
2 get a vintage barber hone off Ebay (if you hunt around can probably get one for around 10 dollars) then you can get the hone you were looking at and be set to tackle just about anything.
3 Get the Norton 4k/8k and you can work with any razor with just that stone.
If money is the main concern I say hunt down a barber hone for now and then for a birthday or Christmas have some one get you the king hone or the Norton or treat yourself for that day
No matter which route you go you will be able to find help on the forum for the best way to use the tools at your disposal
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I would go with a Norton 4k/8k. The 8k is enough for shaving off of it, the 4k is enough to do some work if necessary. You can raise a slurry on the 4k, that speeds things up considerably.
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I've got 2 razors that i've rotated for the last 3-4 months with shaves roughly 3 times a week. Both are still shave-able.. but not quite where i think they should be.. would a barbers hone have enough oomph(technical term) to put an edge back on them?? because from what i've read barbers hones are made to be used more frequently and may take a while if you have a lil more work to do.
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If they don't shave bad, than a barbers hone could be enough to restore the edge on them. You will need more than 5-10 passes, but you should be fine with it.
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Yeah a barber hone should be fine for you it is similar to a finishing hone (IE some where between an 8K -12K typically) If you get one I would start with the 5-10 strokes then test shave an area of your face. If not better go back and do 5-10 more and test shave. Just keep doing that till you get the blade where you want it.
Also from the sound of your blades some more aggressive stropping might help also look around in the stropping section at some of the more recent threads.
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If you plan on maintaining your own blades, go for the Norton combo pack. They have 220k/1k and 4/8k with a flattening stone. The 220k is for chips, repairs, etc.
The 1k is your bevel setter, and the 4/8k is your workhorse. See Lynn's pyramid method. Barber hones are great for maintaining shave ready blades. I used to do 3 lapps religously prior to shaving on a barber hone. It kept my blades sharp for well over a year...But, they were shave ready, not dull. You'd be surprised how far an experienced str8 shaver can let a blade go, and still get a good shave. Barber hones are generally small, 5x2 give or take, and run around 10-12k See the WIKI
Hones - comparison table - Straight Razor Place Wiki
I'd pick up a Barber hone too, if you have the means, I'd let the 1/6k go. You can also get the Naniwa SS in similar grits.
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i like the c12k hone and its under 30$
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VINTAGE STRAIGHT RAZOR HONE BARBER'S CHOICE | eBay
would something along these lines be a decent barbers hone? i'm always weary of buying things off ebay.. just because i fear most people dont know what they're selling.
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and i wouldn't know what i'm buying
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You have been given some good advice here. My vote for your needs is the Norton 4/8. Many of us have that hone, it will maintain your razor better than a barber hone, and it will last you a lifetime.
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thanks a bunch, you guys have been a ton of help, i can follow grits, but the barber hone's always throw me off just cuz i don't know if they're all sorta the same or what.
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many are pretty similar, some aren't very good. the condition is very important too because ceramics is really tough to lap.
there just isn't a current production so you have to pick from whatever's survived through the years which means you pays your moneys and takes your chances... for me it's worked to about 80%, i.e. 20% of the barbers hones have been junk. i just saw the other day one of them still sitting in a corner of my porch.
