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I just won this russian razor and hone in ebay. And need info about the hone:
1 grits?
2 how good is it?
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The seller told me that there is no grits info on the hone box.
On the hone is written "For Razor honing, 1st class" No mark about grits on the box.
I will appreciate your info.
thanks in advance.
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There is some information (in Russian) on a similar hone here.
The box reads:
брусок (brusok, bar/bench stone)
микрокорунд (mikrokorund, aluminium(III)oxide/Al2O3)
для правки бритв (dlya pravki britv, for rectifying razors)
Thanks for your help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldengaerde
Where is it?Quote:
For Razor honing,
I see on the hone box "For razor stropping".
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:Quote:
for rectifying razors
Thanks! I've laughed much.
For stropping.
This micro corundum(Al2O3) is better to use for stropping, but not for honing.
so, that's what the russian seller said:
"On the hone is written "For Razor honing, 1st class" No mark about grits on the box."
if it is for stropping not honing, it means that it is about 12K grit?
Ok. Some theory.
There were not and there are not "grits" in Russia.
There are microns and Roughness class.
This microcorundum is old, and I couldn't find now, what this "1st Class" means.
Do you have pictures of all lettering around the hone box?
And once again, I see on the box " For stropping", but not " For honing".
The titles from left to right:
1. Grits
Abrasive | Water Stones
2. Diamond (Russia)
3. Micro Powder(Russia)
4. Microns
5. Roughness class.
http://www.strazors.com//uploads/images/table_grits.gif
So. There are two types of microcorundum in Russia:
1. М3 - fine 1.4 microns, about 10000 Grit.
2. М5 - 2.8 microns, about 5000 Grit.
But nothing about "classes".:(
The razor and the hone are on their way from Estonia, but when they arrive I'll post some more pictures from the sides of the hone box.
I think that the term "1st class" is a cliche more than a measure.
Thanks for your info, it is so helpful.
I think, I know this seller from Estonia - akbars10. Am I right?
Good seller.
If you want, I can try to ask him in Russian about this hone.
no, he is eco_logika, but if you can talk with him, I will appreciate it.
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Upppsss....
Sorry, I didn't know, that there is another seller from Estonia, who sell Russian razors and hones.
thanks anyway.
The term microcorundum implies no grit or fineness.
Itīs just a term that says "this stone uses fine Al2O3". Almost all of the current synthetic stones use it, too!
Naniwa, Shapton ...
Why should it not be suitable for honing?!?!
Who did say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lesslemming
I've translated only the lettering on the hone box.:)
I found this link about the same hone, I think, but is in russian.
Does it said something important?
Britva.Ru •
http://www.razors.ru/forum/download/...8bd9&mode=view
http://www.razors.ru/forum/download/...8bd9&mode=view
Hello. This instruction on the use of the bar. paragraph 1. - Use with soapy suds. paragraph 2. - Description of changes (X-stroke) Paragraph 3. - After the bar to use razor strap. Item 4. - Wash after using the bar. Item 5. - Prevent damage and contamination of the bar.Sorry for my english
thanks a lot!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fierce30rus
Yes. Something like this, nothing important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fierce30rus
rarreola, I think, to understand this hone, you must use it.:)
Quote:
Who did say this?
I thought the last comment was not part of the translationQuote:
Thanks! I've laughed much.
For stropping.
This micro corundum(Al2O3) is better to use for stropping, but not for honing.
Sorry, you're right.
This phrase isn't part of the translation.
It's my opinion. Again sorry.
No need to appologize :)
But out of curiosity, why do you think aluminiumoxyde is no good for honing?
From the beginning, this hone was made instead of strop with CrO.
And this is write in the instruction: use this hone, after it canvas strop, and the leather strop at the end.
The instruction says
first strop on canvas
then "strop" on the hone
and strop on leather afterwards?
Thatīs kind of odd. No matter what it is intended for, as long as the original poster doesnīt test it,
he wonīt know what to do with it :)
Sounds like this is some type of russian barberīs hone, and could be used as such:
Touch ups between shaves and finishing a razor after honing.
No, it is said: 1. first a hone; 2. strop on canvas 3. and strop on leatherQuote:
Originally Posted by Lesslemming
Then I got it wrong, because that makes a lot more sense. Sounds like a typical barbers hone. Now it comes down to how it performs :)
Yes, of course ... The procedure is the same for everyone:)If necessary, I can write instructions in Russian. You will be able to translate it in an online translator.
You're absolutely right.Quote:
a typical barbers hone
I forgot this name "barbers hone".
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As an aside: what exactly does 'правки' mean?
I thought it derives from a verb 'making right/changing/correcting/editing/rectifying' not unsimilar to German '(ab)richten'. If I'm not mistaken an 'оселок для правки' is a whet/oilstone and a 'ремень для правки' a strop. So 'для правки' anything ranging from 'for stropping', via 'for polishing' to 'for whetting' or maybe even 'for sharpening'. Not sure which is nearer what is meant here, I chose (what I perceived as) a neutral term 'rectifying'. Could someone shed some linguistic light on the matter?
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In theory, all your reasoning are right.
In fact, the word "rectifying" is closer to make straight, ...to repair.
Manah:Quote:
Originally Posted by manah
I found an ebay ended bid "USSR/Russia Razor Hone Mikrokorund" and the seller was Akbars10. Can you ask your friend about the microns of the hone?
this is the link:
USSR/Russia Razor Hone Mikrokorund. | eBay
thanks in advance.
Ok. :)
The razor and hone are both very good . The rasor is the uper class , made for the inteligence in limited edition it has to be 60 65 year made .
The hone is very good synthetic grit size is 1000 to 2000 but it is hard and leaves scratches like 3 4 K stone , used with oil or soap lather is eve nfiner . The practice is 1 stone honning and canvas with paste in the past . It is not a fast stone but very consistent scratch patern and very sharp edge that has to be smoothened .
I have 2 or 3 diferent of theese and there is from SIC - they are harder .Definetly you can use it as bevell seter and midle stone . There was no such practice for fine synthetics in the past , in rusia there is aboundance of Yasma - Jaspeer / microcristaline cvartz / that is fine as black arc or transeludent arc.
Very good stone and razor indeed .
This very interesting thread proves what a great place SRP is. Members are so willing to give a helping hand from all over the world. :bow
Really great info RusenBG, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by RusenBG
