Yet another hone ID.

A good friend gave me this. It was his grandfather's. It was pretty chewed up and dished out when I got it. I've gotten it back to pretty much flat with 400 silicon carbide (several sheets worth) and water.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/STONE002.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/STONE005.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/STONE008.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/STONE006.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...e/STONE009.jpg

More pics at
Stone pictures by Wullie_01 - Photobucket

Thanks in advance,
Willie

Perhaps an Arkansas combo?

Looks like a Coticule with some rust sign, but....................

Looks like a Belgian yellow backed with slate. Enjoy!

Yeah, I'd like to say it's coticule also. If you got it flat with only 400 grit sandpaper, I guess it has to be. 400 grit sandpaper would have been futile on an Ark. Congratulations!

I can guarantee it's not an Arkansas.

The dark side is pretty soft and was scratched and gouged. It was also the side that had the deepest belly in it. Is the slate side the "finishing" side or just something for it to set on?

I've played with the yellow side a bit, but never tried it with slurry. Guess I'll have to cure that.

Thanks for the help.
W

Dont bother with the slate.

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Dont bother with the slate.

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WHAT??

After I spent ALL that time and energy and sandy paper making it mostly flat?????

LOL

So not Arkansas :)

Still I have doubts about it being a Coticule. They used BBW to back vintage Coticules, slate backing is still pretty recent. It would be nice if it is a Coticule though.

How about a pic with some slurry?

Look at it this way wullie,Now it will sit perfectally flat in the holder or on the bench:)) Neat looking rock.

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Originally Posted by Martin103

How about a pic with some slurry?

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Here ya go,
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE012.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE013.jpg

Going with my first impression that its a coticule, it iis possible that it was backed recently with slate, perhaps it wasnt backed originally,
where would you put this stone capacities in the progression?

I had some Cotis in my hands which were definitately vintage and backed by black slate.

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Originally Posted by Martin103

Going with my first impression that its a coticule, it iis possible that it was backed recently with slate, perhaps it wasnt backed originally,
where would you put this stone capacities in the progression?

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All I know about the stone is that it was my friend's grandfather's. His father is still alive at 92, but doesn't remember anything about it other than it was his dad's. I seriously doubt it has had anything done to it in 60-70 years or more.

I've been fooling with it this afternoon. It is S-L-O-W even with a heavy slurry. (either that or the A J Jordan from Germany I've been using on it is one hard SOB) I set a bevel with the gritty side on a barber's hone and have been trying to remove the scratches left from that puppy. I'd say this hone is more for maintenance than anything else because it doesn't remove much metal.

I got distracted while typing this post and decided to disregard Kelly's advice and ran the blade on the slate for about 20 laps dry. It helped a bunch. I'll strop it and see if it's a razor again after a while.

After attempting a shave with it, it needs a LOT more time on that stone I think.

Back to the drawing board. LOL

I am almost 100% sure its a synth barber hone with slate backing. I had a stone very similar to this, I bought it covered in oil and lather because I thought it is a coti, but it wasn't. It could be something natural too, but I don't think it is a coti.

i dont think its a coti the grain of that stone doesnt match any coti i have seen before. hey wullie ask that guys grandpa what he use to sharpen on that stone.

Looks to me like cast black resin in the back rather than any stone.

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Originally Posted by eleblu05

i dont think its a coti the grain of that stone doesnt match any coti i have seen before. hey wullie ask that guys grandpa what he use to sharpen on that stone.

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From the gouges that were in the slate, it appeared that a square point razor had made a lot trips up and down it.

Tom's grandpa has been dead a long time. Tom's Dad is 93 but like I said earlier he doesn't remember much about his Dad. He does remember that the stone was his Dad's and that he acquired after his Dad died. Tom's grandfather apparently divorced when Tom's Dad was young so he doesn't remember much about him.

The black backing is not any kind of cast material. It has a grain but it is hard to get to show in a pic.

After the slurry wears down and gets thinned, a razor will polish the stone. Right now it feels as smooth as glass and does have some reflection.

Some more pics from as close as I can get my camera to focus.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE015.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE014.jpg

The dark side
First pic is from the middle where the stone had a deep belly, I didn't flatten it all the way.
The unflattened part is maybe 3/8" wide on this side and about half that on the other side.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE016.jpg

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/STONE017.jpg
The last pic shows the grain ( just barely )

Pics were taken under a florescent lamp and the color was adjusted to match the stone as closely as I could get it. IT's not exact but it is close as far as the shade goes.

Well heck Willie, just send it to me. I'll tell you if it's a coticule, and send it back. I've got a warehouse full it seems.

For crying out loud, that's one of those BelgianArkansasCharnEschCotiPhigWhigs with backing of indeterminate composition. Sheeeesh!!! :roflmao

Regards,

Howard

Howard may be on to something here..

Right now it's an arm rest. I've got the pull out on my desk pulled out and it levels up things nicely when my hand is on my mouse.:rofl2:

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Originally Posted by SirStropalot

For crying out loud, that's one of those BelgianArkansasCharnEschCotiPhigWhigs with backing of indeterminate composition. Sheeeesh!!! :roflmao

Regards,

Howard

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That was easy!!!

Howard has a way with words and cuts right to the chase.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...hit/brt_22.jpg

Hey, it's the old maxim! When in doubt, " dazzle them with BS"!!! I spend a lot of time in doubt! And how'd you get my picture!! :nono:

In fact, if you give me that pic I may change my avatar!

IT's yours!! Right click, save as etc etc.. Heck. I'll even resize it for ya if ya want. :)

Here ya go.
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/brt_22-1.jpg

Willie,

Got it, Thanks!!

A well used coticule fairly old but with still lots of use left in it. A treasure!

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Originally Posted by Howard

A well used coticule fairly old but with still lots of use left in it. A treasure!

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thanks because now it is officially a coticule, glad you finally chimed in.

jim

NIce Coticule

not that i don't think howard knows a thing or two about coticules, and i could certainly learn more..
but i'm not so sure it is a coticule.

I'd put my money on it being synthetic, at least the yellow side.