At a certain time in history you could just order the Escher you like and get one or two!
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At a certain time in history you could just order the Escher you like and get one or two!
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Certainly a common hone in it's day if one considers the bargain price.
The swaty on the bottom is .60 or the Escher at .75, not quite todays prices for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingfish
Another interesting aspect of this add is the swatyol ive seen that mention before on swaty instruction uses with water lather or swatyol!
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Very cool. I've been hoping to see a catalog photo of eschers for years. I forget who posted this price list originally and I have no idea what the date of publication was, but here is an old price list. What is interesting to me is the price differentialAttachment 95087 between the colored eschers, with the y/g being far more expensive than the rest, and the "Barber's Delight" leading the pack.
Ive seen this price list before as well, i think what interesting is that the price is per dozen!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Makes me wish my grandpa had been a stone collector. Sometimes I think that right now, as we speak, there is some item out there, readily available and reasonably priced, that will in 50 years be worth big $ and if I only knew what it was. Then again, I won't be around in 50 years to cash in so ....... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
Yeah I saw this. My question is about the other hones pictured. They are water hones, and don't say anything about being synthetic. What are the odds those are also thuringian stones sold under another name? Now if that was so, it would be my life's intent to find one. I'm assuming the kanyanbo is a japanese water hone, but the others...just might be. Right?
Absolutely, and the sizes are the same as the Eschers on the other side, but those might be harder to find then the eschers? but probably a lot cheaper!Quote:
Originally Posted by regularjoe
Funny thing, the 'double diamond' hone is probably a synthetic and it is the most expensive out of the bunch. Probably wouldn't bring ten bucks on the bay. The one thuringan, I assume, is distributed by Theo Koch Co, which IIRC was also either a maker or a distributor of razors ?Quote:
Originally Posted by regularjoe
I would gladly order 1 of each if those were todays prices lol. thanks for sharing that...its pretty cool
The Theo A Kochs Company from Chicago (why is it that so many barber chair manufacturers were based in Chicago?) has a long history in well built vintage barber chairs (nowadays we have to say ‘vintage’, but some time ago, selling barber chairs was a very good business).Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Barber chairs manucfacturer and probably barber supplies!
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His name comes up in that old Treatise on Razors and Hones and I do believe he was a distributor not a maker.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Ya'know I was thinking of Koch as a barber supplier but then I thought of Koken, another widely seen barber chair, and thought I must have seen the Koch name on old razors. Anyway ...... thanks for the tip and especially for the old escher info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
Another i just realize about this chart is the difference between a 6" stone to a 10" stone is about 4 times more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
I found this today on the net from vancouver archieve in canada.
Funny enough, the picture of the genuine escher, imported driect from germany is a picture of a pike's belgian hone!
Yeah but you still had to pay postage.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
Stingray
For the prices listed i would gladly pay for postage!Quote:
Originally Posted by stingray
It was I. It is from "Pike Sharpening Stones and Abrasive Specialties", catalogue No. 11 from 1918, page 67. On the top of the page (which also lists Belgian Razor Hones, = Coticules) it reads: "Importations Suspended during European War".Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
according to list coticules were much expensive than the eschers?
and also strops?
Eye candy, a Y/G barber's delight natural combo. The blue green side has the complete back label and I use the yellow green side. The end label is marked y/g.
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Eye candy for sure! ever think of removing the label to use both sides?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
More Escher eye candy, a blue green and a yellow green. The b/g came in the blue box and y/g in the red box. Both 5x2 1/2 + slurry stones. Both have the same label on the front of the box. The blue box has W.F. Crosby 81-88 Fulton Street New York ink stamped on the back side. The seller told me he researched the name and address and W.F. Crosby was last in business in 1905. The y/b stone has the Escher label with no signature imprinted. The blue green stone has the label with the signature warning to only buy stones with the signature label. I am presuming the blue is a later stone. Both have the end labels in German .... Blau-grun and gelb-grun.
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Very tempting and I for sure pondered it. I didn't do it though and won't. I know what an escher b/g is like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
You can all keep your travel back in time thoughts to buy some eschers or similar. If I had that opportunity I'd be in Japan checking out the quarries.
Well if i had the oportunity i would do that for sure! im sure i could find 1 or 20 stones im interested in!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Paraphrasing what I've read - I think that while it was easy to get excellent thuri razor stones back when these were available, getting back to japan in those days and getting to the quarries or their products may have been significantly more difficult.
I could be wrong, though, 100 years ago maybe someone would've just needed to ask around there (vs. earlier years when you had to be higher class to even have the right to pay for such a thing).
All of these thuri posts almost make me want to try more thuris.
Could be worse, if you had been on SRP a few years ago when they were posting about the Scotch hones ..... than you would have had to have a Tam, a dalmore blue, and a water of ayr ........ :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveW
Boy those were the days, when every stone under the sun was easily available( although sometimes pricey) to experiment with.
In reading many older post about stones you can definately see the trend from that time for a particular stone like you mention. One must wonder what the next trend will be?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
That B. T. & Co. is the trademark of Bösenberg, Trinks & Co. They were in business as resellers/makers/suppliers of hones, abrasives, wind-up stroppers (based at Deutsche Schleifmittel Werke, Hamburg) and sharpeners for safety blades, etc, at least up until 1923/4, when it became Schleifmittel AG vormals Pike & Escher and relocated to Sonneburg, Thuringen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Regards,
Neil
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Originally Posted by Neil Miller
Thanks for the information Neil,
just a view adds that might be of interest.
Bösenberg, Trinks and Co was a direct follow-up or subsidiary company of J.G. Escher Sohn. The first owner of B.T.Co married a granddaughter of the escher family. B.T.Co also owned or rented some of the Thuringian quarries the J.G. Escher had before.
The Schleifmittel AG exists until 1963 when it was taken over by the VEB Vereinigte Porzellanwerke. However, the Schleifmittel AG kept the logo that B.T.Co had used (man with knife and sharpening stone) still for their products, even for a certain time, as you can see in the following head of a letter/bill from 1937.
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Anybody ever come across an escher label like this one?
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No signature?
Instruction in German,English,French, Spanish?
no border?
Had this one ID in another thread, but i figured i would add it here as well.
...looks like a nice one though...
