My latest additions to my collection? Please help ID

These are my latest finds, but both were found at the flea market from a vender who had a good number of stones, including swaty's. So there is at least a chance they were barber hones on that alone.. :)

I already have a Thuri and both feel very very similiar. The larger one is actually a bit softer and creates a slurry faster than the other, or even my known thuri, the larger is also a different color as you can see..
I am going to have to take off a good 1/8 inch per side on the smaller, as it wasnt taken care of.

So I am thinking Thuri or esher(ish) but based on what your guys see, what else could they be?
I have taken a razor to the larger one. And it seems like it gave a nice edge. Keeping in mind i am still learning to hone, so that test doesnt mean much,

Please tell me what you think? Fyi i got a steal regardless at 1$ each.

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Thisis the smaller one, as yu can see somene really had fun withit, and i am not going to have fun taking that gouge out.
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Since no one is going to answer, I think it's a Llyn Idwal. When you doubt, it's a Llyn idwal. The colour of slurry, and I think I see flakes. How hard is it? They are generally finishers.

Hoi Vasilis,

LI is hard and need 3000 gram or more to make a scratch of 0.3 mm wide with a Carbide-tipped scriber.

the one with the big gouge, can you just flaten the other side, and leave the overall thickness for strength? it'd be a shame to break a hone because it was too thin.

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Originally Posted by ezpz

the one with the big gouge, can you just flaten the other side, and leave the overall thickness for strength? it'd be a shame to break a hone because it was too thin.

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The other side has a chip out of it also.

The large one is very soft, softer than the small one. Very easy to raise a slurry on both. Just as easy as my thury.

It might not be a Llyn Idwal, but, there are softer and harder types of the same stone. Same goes for the Charnleys, Grecians, and almost every natural hone. I have one Grecian that came with label so it's definitely Grecian, that is so soft it slurries while honing, and a Charnley that's not harder than a black Thuringian. Hardness is not a rule always.

I wanted to give an update on these, I have had time now to hone a few razors(try) and really compare them to my other hones. I can tell you they are not near fine enough to be finishers. I have this weird test where I rub a stone on my teeth, and lick the stone, Not to mention the normal finger nail roughness test.

I am putting these at around 4k as it feels closer to my norton 4k

I definetly had thury fever when I originally found them, and wish thinking took the best of me.

Now I am not sure what it could be. it is just as soft as a German hone, but the grit is just too course compared to the other German hone I have.

I will have a crack and say the larger one is a belgian blue and the smaller maybe a slate not to sure hope they work out well for you .