What kind of stone is it ?

Hello everybody ! There was this stone among all hairdresser instruments I bought . The colour is light-green .The size is 162x50x20 mm . The was a little depriciation . I rubbed the surface of the stone with carbide of silicon on the mirror . It took me some minutes , it means that the stone is quite soft . The stone has a homogeneous structure , without inclusions . On the stone some dark and light longitudinal strands are seen . There are also a lot of dark small stands , they look like web (look at the picture) . The stone makes dim-white suspension . Exstremally even . There are some questions :1)What kind of stone is it ? 2) Did I ue it right after Beloian cuticule ? 3) What stone can i make a suspension with ?
Respectfully yours

Looks like it could be a Thuringian, they're usually pretty soft. If it is one you should be able to use it after your coticule.

I'm no expert, but my stone is very similar and it's a chinese 12K, bought here

1. In my opinion you found a nice Y/G thuringian, judgng from the pics and you findings, and it shoul be a superb finisher
2. Yes, it will be most likely better than your coti, and you can go from it to the thuri with a few laps on water
3. see point 2 :) You don't really need a slurry with it, but you can make some with a diamond hone, or you can search for a thuri slurry stone if you insist to.

It does look like a Thuringian. I also like those cigars. There are yellowish C12ks, but I don't think it's one of those.
Where can someone find slurry stones from vintage thuringians? Naguras from Japan are easy to find, the same goes for coticules, but thuringians... Those are rare. One of those and a flat piece of marble is all you need for final honing.

Agree totally with Jeness! The basic look and color are consistent with my Y/G Eschers, minus the "strands" which I haven't seen on Eschers. I believe it's a Thuri also and it should provide excellent edges. Slurry is a preference thing and I've used mine both ways. Plain water is fine if you're coming off another finish stone to the Thuri. Congrats on a nice find!!

Regards,

Howard

What a pity that it is not Escher . Today I used a stone from Chinese Guangxi as a slurry one . The stone works very well and quickly . It is much quicker Guangxi 12k . After all only clear stone with water . Thank you very much for your advices and attantion to my theme . Ruslan

Yes, the Polish Chinese wetstone ! Yes I bought one too! Not sure where it will fit, but it was lapped well when it arrives. Think it was worth it....

Probably an Escher based on the sizes. Definitely a Thurinigian. Unbranded Thuringians usually came in 5 x 1 or 4 x 1 etc, though you cannot call it an Escher without the label. Which is only a label and means nothing other than value.

I agree wit Scipio. I would not be surprised even if that was "Just Thuri" it could be on par with Eschers.

I agree as well with all, but i didnt see a pic of slurry, thuri slurry is usually white!

More than the streaks (not unseen in T, albeit rather pronounced in this instance, especially for an E) the apparent lack of any cut marks and allsided rounding of corners strikes me as unusual.

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The colour is light-green .The size is 162x50x20 mm .

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1. In my opinion you found a nice Y/G thuringian, judgng from the pics and you findings

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Agree totally with Jeness! The basic look and color are consistent with my Y/G Eschers, minus the "strands" which I haven't seen on Eschers.

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Interesting. Yellow Green, not Light Green as the OP indicates, nor any other shade? So where do you think it fits in this range of thirty-odd specimens under different natural lighting conditions, can you indicate its exact colour position? Based on comparison with which of the strips?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1...mpound1000.jpg

Of course one can't. I've said it before here and elsewhere and I'll keep repeating it: I think it is well-nigh impossible to reliably attribute one of the Escher colour designations to a stone on the feeble basis of a few pictures.

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Probably an Escher based on the sizes.

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Another bold statement. It presupposes certain sizes typical for Eschers AND ONLY for Eschers - which there aren't: every size of labelled Escher has been found under other labels and without label (and most of them in non-Thuringian hones as well). The scarce exceptions are a few specimens of which there are good reasons to believe they were shortened (asymmetrical label position, aberrant cut marks etc.) and those aren't 162x50x20mm.

As for labels: no label, no Escher. As for the value of labels and colours to honers: Eschers and truely vintage Thuringians of all colours perform very well.

To Oldengaerde . I made a mistake . The colour is grey-green of course . As for roundings , in Russia it is usual to make roundings on edges of a stone in order not to disfigure a blade of the stone . I have got totally confused . What kind of stone is it ?

My apologies for the confusion I apparently caused. I stated with what I disagree, but did not make sufficiently clear with what I do agree.

Judging from just the pictures, I think a few options are possible. Taking into consideration what you wrote about colour, softness, slurry, I agree with most others that it most likely is a Thuringian.

But Thuringians do not originally have smooth sides, nor rounded edges on all sides: the sides display cut marks and edges are only rounded at the honing side (for the sound reasons you stated). Of course, although I thought it is remarkable, this does not mean that it isn't a T. One explanation would be that you yourself lapped the stone all around and chamfered corners on both sides.

I think it looks like a thuringian. I have own around 20 thuringians, eschers and unlabeled, and not all of mine have had saw marks on a sides, even some the ones I have found in the wild did not have saw marks except on the ends. I have also bought a few that have had the chamfers on the edges. I'm not saying that you are wrong sir I'm just saying anything is possible and just because it has chamfers and lack of saw marks doesn't eliminate it from being a thuringian.

I have a Fox no.44 extra soft water hone that was used very little when I got it and it has chamfered corners like the OP's stone. You can really see the chamfers in any of the pics I have on my phone though. I'll try to get some pics later.