Im in the process of getting a hone, and I would like you guys to give your advise on what type of hone this stone is. Have any one see this hone in this wooden box?
Cheers
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Im in the process of getting a hone, and I would like you guys to give your advise on what type of hone this stone is. Have any one see this hone in this wooden box?
Cheers
I do not think that is a good stone. it would not work well for razors at all. can you please provide info as to who is selling it, so I can scold them for selling such junk.
and so I can buy it out from under you
J/K that looks like a very nice stone. I would jump on it all day long.
Well heck I wonder what it is. Needs a little time with some sandpaper I think, but let us know how it goes. I've never seen that label. Of course I haven't been around since forever, but it is new to me anyhow. Good luck with it, and let us know how it acts. Soft, hard, edge results, etc. Pretty neat, although for some reason it makes me feel suspicious.
The seller saying its an Escher Hone. Has any one seen an Escher hone like this? I would like to know. Many thanks
feelgeorge13,
sorry to say this, but that is definetely not an Escher nor a Thuringian hone. Can you supply a picture of the hone wet and one with slurry?
These are the pictures I was shown. I just want to know for sure if any one has seen this type of hone?
The information about the hone you vere given is not true. Just look at the label and with a bit of geography knowledge you can recognise that german hone as in your case Escher could not be produced in Brittain.
However it looks like interesting hone and I would suspect Welsh slate type hone. Let us know more when you get it.
Yeah it can't be an Escher hone because Escher is a brand name. There is no Escher branding, therefore, it's not an Escher. Not that it matters even a little bit to the edge it'll produce if it's Thuringian. I'm pretty skeptical of anyone saying anything definitive about whether or not it's thuringian just based on these pics. It could be a Thuringian stone. But it could be a lot of things. Either way, if it's Thuringian, then it was imported, cut, and distributed by whatever company would claim it. The "Haze" company I'm assuming? idk. Overall, the english isn't very well put together for an English advertisement. I've never seen a stone in that box, with that label.
I won't hazard any guess until you've told us how hard or soft the stone is when confronted with sandpaper.
Im in the market for a small Escher stone, credit card size. Any one? Pm if you have one for sale cheers
Interesting hone to satisfy HAD. Shouldn't be too expensive, get it if you can and give it a try. Will need lapping. I wonder whether or not it is a Tam O'Shanter, looking at the speckled side of the hone on pic 2.
You evil, evil man! :medvl:Quote:
Originally Posted by sidmind
British production so it was produce in britain that doesn't mean it was mined in britain we will have to see how easy it laps,the smell of the stone while lapping and the color in day light etc.
Question to Neil, maybe he can jump in:
Neil could this be a british greywacke which we discussed in another thread. How does it compare to the one you have listed or others you had in hand?
The pictures remember me more of a fine sandstone than either a slate.
It is quite a job to say anything definite with the stone in that condition - it really needs lapping - even a picture of it wet would help as it would then assume a more natural colour - all those scratches tend to make dark things look much lighter than they really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatzicho
It could be greywacke, but I have only ever seen the razor-sharpening variety in thin (approx 25mm x 150mm) lengths.
I would guess that 'haze' is not a company name, but a property of the stone itself, i.e.: it gives a hazy shine rather than a mirror shine.
I would also think that 'British Production' means just that - the stone was procured in the British Isles and therefore is probably a hone-slate of some kind, which would tie in with the 'haze' finish.
The only time the origin of material was deliberately concealed or obfuscated to any great degree in Britain was during and just after WW2 - if the hone is from that era then perhaps Eleblu05 is correct. Watchmakers and silversmiths, as well as intaglio printmakers used two traditional stones that pre-date WW2 by a considerable period and which were referred to as 'blue polishing stone' and 'grey polishing stone' - they were said to be imported from Ratisbon and the blue type was almost definitely blue honing slate from the coticule layers. One would then think that the 'grey polishing stone' was some sort of thuringian type hone-slate, but confusingly the blue type was said to be finer than the grey type, so maybe the grey type was a greywacke of a not-so-fine nature.
After some time substitutes were found for both of these hones by the trade, but the names endured so I suspect they were substituted with British slates of the same colour. Today the names still endure in the catalogues of jewellers supply companies, but the hones themselves are now synthetic.
All of this is just conjecture though - until better pictures of the hone lapped, wet and slurried are available it is impossible to say.
Regards,
Neil
Here your chance, Win this auction and let me know if I missed out on a good deal
Beautiful Blue Green British Escher German Water Hone | eBay
Although it's allowed to start threads about items from a live auction, it's not really a smart move. I unliked your opening post.
I am not the seller nor am I going to bid for this item.
This is the message I sent to the seller: "Hi, Whatever it is, this hone is not an Escher, doesn't even look like a Thuringian hone. Buyer who finds out might give you negative feedback and claim their money back."
Never ceases to amaze me what B/S people try to make a quick buck.
I ended up winning this, as someone said it satisifies HAD for not too much. and a bit of a puzzle as to what it really is. For this price with the fact that it has the box and label. Which is my goal on all the hones I am keeping for my own collection, I think it will fit right in, I will update with the proper photos when it arrives.
Well good luck with it, the seller asked me for $125. Thats why I decided to ask for more pictures and post them here to be 100% sure.. Any way I just bough a cheap Thuringian Water Hone for £20. Let me know how you get on with the hone, I am still not sure what type of hone it is.
Well I am to having very good luck, he has not even bothered to ship it yet. Day 6 you better believe this wing nut will get very bad feedback.
I was excited about the mystery stone. Now not so much.
Im sure he used the cheapest shipping cost to that why its taking a while, personally I will not buy from the states unless I really have to. I live in Glasgow! Scotland to shipping to uk that's a week or more, if its held in customs then we are looking at two weeks.
You have also increased riskof not getting it by showing it here before you had posetion of it. Sellers often have no clue about them and surf this forum for price advice and if they whif that the price they getting could be much more they can decide "To loose item in post" because they wanted to save money on postage tehy haven'g got tracking on it.
Hopefully this is not the case
I stand corrected, he just never uploaded tracking and shipped yesterday. Lucky he only lives 1 state away.
I am glad I got this. It is defiantly a thuri. And in great shape.
It will fit great into my collection. I will post photos when I get back into town in a few days.
Hello from a fellow Glaswegian George
I got to my motel room, and had time to play with it. It creates a slurry identical to my other labled German hones.
I smelled the slurry and rubbed it on my teeth. Super fine, 12k+ All evedence shows German water stone, or one like it from a similar slate quarry. How long have they been pulling the blue & purple welsh hones like AJ sells? I need to order some from him just to have an example for my identification samples..
It's the one on the right, the middle one is my unlabeled y/g Esher, far left is a blue thury
Sorry about the lighting This two bit motel in the middle of Aarkansas we are staying at kinda sucks,
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I just won a 6" "Haze" Hone :)
Well done congratulations. You were willing to pay more for it.
You will like it, its a very fine hone. Probably thuri.