Is the Chosera 10k a better hone than the Naniwa SS 12K hone? Is there a big difference besides the price??
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Is the Chosera 10k a better hone than the Naniwa SS 12K hone? Is there a big difference besides the price??
Better ????
That is a tough one to call, you would have to define what it means to you ???
Better longevity of the hone
Better as in sharper??
Better as in smoother
Better as in value
Better as in faster
Better as in slower
It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish, I am honestly not trying to be vauge here but if you give us more info then perhaps we could answer as to if it is better for you...
I've done hundreds of razors off the Chosera 10K and thousands off the Naniwa SS 12K. To me, the 10K although a very nice finisher produces a coarser feeling edge. Still a nice edge, but not quite as sharp or smooth as the 12K in my opinion. Come down to Cape and you can play with both stones and make up your own mind.
If you are going to be going to another hone after either of these, then it really becomes your preference.
Have fun
Hundreds as versus thousands says it all. Thank you!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn
Extra, an invite like that should be jumped on with both feet. Offer to buy lunch, make the coffee, sharpen the pencils, wash the cars. That kind of time w/ Lynn is worth much fine gold.
I use the Chosera 10k extensively, and have had a couple of Naniwa SS 12k hones and a naniwa SS 10k. The chosera is in my experience a sub-finisher - it prepares the bevel for the next (finishing) hone, but I wouldn't class the edge it leaves as good as the SS 12k which is much smoother and a true finishing hone, or even the SS 10k which is only a little below the SS12k in terms of finishing edge.
Regards,
Neil
Thank you for the help from across the pond. Lynn and yourself have the same view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
Neil, What is your next finishing hone after the Chosera????Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
I would get the 12k SS. If I was doing tools, I'd use the chosera. I dont' know what the grit size or abrasive density is exactly, but I think it's in the neighborhood of 1.2 microns for the chosera, which is bordering on a rough shave without a workout of chromium oxide or some laps on a natural finisher. the abrasive density is way up there, too.
1.2 microns of very dense abrasive and a magnesia binder makes a great great tool stone. And it is a very good finisher for razors, but not the best and it costs more than the more lovely feeling finishers. The SS has a better feel for razors, in my opinion. So does the sigma power 13k, which is my favorite relatively inexpensive (term "relatively" is key) synthetic stone for razors (because it's fine and it handles tool work well, too, which is a bonus for me that might not be there for other people).
May I cut in ? Word on the street is that the Suehiro Gokumyo #20000 is the cat's meow. This from Lynn and Birnando.Quote:
Originally Posted by drwextra
Depends on the age of the razor and the steel - for very old Sheffield razors I find a very hard coticule works well (I use a Les Latneuses) more usually it is a Shapton Pro 15k (just wore out my shapton GS 16k) followed ocasionally by a slurried (god forgive me!) shapton gs 30k. That SG 20k Jimmy mentioned is very tempting though - although at these grit ratings I reckon its more personal preference and suitability to your way of working rather than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by drwextra
Regards,
Neil
First of all, thanks Neil for dubbing it the SG 20k. Saves me from having to go to an email I saved and copying and pasting Suehiro Gokumyo #20000. :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
I've read .... somewhere.... that the results, in the right hands, from the SG20 are comparable to that of the Shap pro 30k. I had the whole pro series and I rarely used the 30k. The level of edge I got from the 15k was 'good enough' for me.
Later, when I got my yellow-green Escher I had found my ideal finisher. Not that it was better or equal to the shap pro 30k, not saying it is or it isn't , just that it delivers an edge that I am very happy shaving with. That is why I sold all the rest and kept the best. Of course YMMV. :D