Frictionites - other than #00s

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Originally Posted by roughkype

I don't think the diamond sticks to the Charnley. After that step I work it over with the back of a DMT plate, then a couple of rinses and wipes with the Smith's honing solution.

I put CrOx on my Spyderco and finished a Genco and Case Red Imp on it; the results were stellar. Don't know if I could have done that treatment on lesser steel.

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The more i use the spyderco UF, the more I like it. It's like pizza, it's great regardless of whether or not you sprinkle stuff on it. Every time I use a natural stone, I look back at the table in my basement BR (where I can get away with leaving stones laying all over the place) and look at the spyderco UF and figure that I should knock off all of this mickey mouse and just go to using it exclusively, maybe with just a few passes to the finished edge with an old japanese barber's stone to knock the smarts off of the edge a little bit.

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Originally Posted by DaveW

The more i use the spyderco UF, the more I like it. It's like pizza, it's great regardless of whether or not you sprinkle stuff on it. Every time I use a natural stone, I look back at the table in my basement BR (where I can get away with leaving stones laying all over the place) and look at the spyderco UF and figure that I should knock off all of this mickey mouse and just go to using it exclusively, maybe with just a few passes to the finished edge with an old japanese barber's stone to knock the smarts off of the edge a little bit.

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Interesting. I had the full set of 3 and couldn't do anything with them. Not for razors or for knives. I said as much when I put them in the classifieds and sold them a couple of years ago. Maybe that says more about me than the spydercos. :p

I got mine for tools, at the recommendation of the same guy who has all of these unused frictionites.

I found the same thing for tools, you have to keep after them and keep the surface in a fairly fresh condition or they get worn and glossy (even when clean) and cut slow and unnecessarily fine. But in that condition, for razors as a super finisher, they're great, an as a substrate for very fine powders, they're also really great.

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Originally Posted by DaveW

as a substrate for very fine powders, they're also really great.

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Robert Williams, custom razor maker extradonaire, said he got great results with diamond spray on an ultrafine spyderco.

The Frictionite 825 is the finer of the 2. It uses the same type & grade ( 1200F) of abrasive as the Frictioite 00. The 821 uses a Carborundum abrasive with a grade of 3F ( the same as the dark side of a Frictionite 00 ) which is coarser than the 1200F grade but not as much as you may think. The 821 is not a razor finishing stone.
Both are a Hot process hone with a resin binder so do not let them freeze or get very hot. That would breakdown the binder.

The Super Punjab uses the same abrasive and grade as the Frictionite 00 for the fine side. The coarse side is also a 3F grade but a slightly different type of silicon carbide ( made by a different company).

The Deep Rock Coticule..... I have 2 of them with the original labels. They are a razor finishing grade stone.

Hope this helps, :)

JimmyHad, thanks for pointing me to this thread :)

and another thing! :)....... I have used a broken barber hone to clean Spydercos. It works well.

Randy Tuttle, ladies and gentlmen...::applause::

How have your home made barber hone attempts been, Randy?

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Originally Posted by randydance062449

and another thing! :)....... I have used a broken barber hone to clean Spydercos. It works well.

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I just used a $5 razor hone that I got at a flea market yesterday to do the same (not a good one, it just says "BARBER HONE" on it, and it's got a lot of bubbles/pocks in it from front to back, which means it'll make a nice nagura). I like the way it worked. My spyderco is gray, but it's not loaded gray, it's just discolored but glazed over and smooth. It sits in my woodworking bench, so it's nice to have something to clean it off with.

Randy - thanks for the summary of what the stones are, in terms of grits, etc.

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Originally Posted by Disburden

Randy Tuttle, ladies and gentlmen...::applause::

How have your home made barber hone attempts been, Randy?

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Hoping to pick up my modified hydraulic cylinder from the shop this week. The 40 ton was inadequate and went kaput.