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King 1000/6000 hone
hello, I am new to SRP and shaving with a real blade, For about two years i have been using the disposable blades straight razors that barbers use now days, and i thought they were good but i got a gold dollar and i thought it was actually good ( I think the weight of a blade was the key, since the others are light as a Feather =), so i bought a razor from Larry and a couple blades only to learn to make scales, i thought if a gold dollar feels good a real blade must be amazing. I also bought a chinese 12k to keep the edge on the razor longer.
Im thinking about taking the plunge to setting the bevel and honing the razor.
Anyway, the wood place i got the hone had a combo King Ice bear stone 1k/6k (8"x2"x1') for $30. so i was thinking a bout buying it. My question is if this stone along with the chinese 12k would be good enough to set bevel and get it ready for at least a semi decent shave. I have been watching honing videos every night for the past week, so i think i have the theory down i just need the practice. I know its a big step and ill probably buy better hones later but with this economy i can't spend that much w/o breaking the bank.
I appreciate all comments, oh yeah and i think i'm starting to suffer from the RAD because i keep seeing razors i want and i'm already making a razor fund (luckily i have no children yet) might be hard to have a college fund and a razor fund. Any advise.
Thank you very much.
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Welcome aboard.
Take your time in this journey.
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I was in the same position as you in February - I wanted to start learning to hone from bevel-setting up, and I didn't want to spend too much. I went for a King 1k/6k, and I'm satisfied with it.
The 1k certainly does the job of bevel setting very well (although it's the only one I've tried - I can't compare it to any others.) The 6k seems to me to be fine for the sharpening stage. It might be quicker/easier to use a 4k/8k, but it's do-able on the 6k. You'll then need a final finishing stage, as the resulting edge is somewhat rough, but you have one of those already.
In short, I think it's a good way to cheaply start learning to hone.
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Welcome
I started out with those two hones but the gaps in the progression adds a lot of work per hone. The gap between 1k and 6k is not too bad if you also have a diamond plate to raise slurry. I ended up adding a barber hone to my progression. Because the gap between 6k and 12k is a lot of polishing.
Jonathan
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They work they tend toward being soft, but that isn't a huge concern with razors...
I personally like the King 1k and I used it in nearly every honing vid I did for the specific reasons of cost and availability.. There are several that are better but none at that price point...
I would highly recommend a DMT 325 to keep them all flat and to generate slurries...
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Just to make a point here not being a facetious, but you don't need anything between the 1k and the Chinese (PHIG) it simply makes things easier and more consistent...
gssixgun Chinese 1 stone part 1.wmv - YouTube
I am not using the King 1k in this vid but I could have :)
gssixgun Chinese 1 stone part 2 - YouTube
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Great advice, i saw your vids the other day when i bought my 12k, but i thought since you were using the really expensive 1k, i believe it was a chossera, i would not be able to to the one hone honing. now beacuse of black friday there is a $10 discount on Woodcraft and an thicker 1k hone, i think ill buy that instead for $27 total.
Thank you
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very good advice, im kinda scared on spending money for nothing, i already did the whole kriegar ordeal. glad the king hone will work. thank you.
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I bought the 1k/6k about 3 or so years ago and I'm really happy with it. As Glen mentions the dmt does make life easier, the King dishes fairly quickly and sandpaper becomes a mess and makes for a grumpy wife.
I'd go for the combo as opposed to just the 1k if the price was similar. I've tried Glen's method above with the King 1k & Chinese and it works a treat, but generally I prefer to hone without tape and the 1k>6k>Natural works better for this in my experience. Also the King combo on it's own makes for a great knife stone. With a dmt d8c in there too I can keep everything flat and breath some life into seriously sad looking razors and knives.
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I just placed my order for the combo, its going to be so fun learning this.
Thank you all.