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    Default Thuringian Arkansas stones …?

    The stone that's show with the razor. Was that shape originally used for a Sickle or Grass Scythe Blade?
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    Hi Johnus, nice to see you!

    Well, for both I think, if my google translater was correct... also a general shape for all kind of cutting tools (once again, I'm no expert on old hone stones, so it should be taken with a grain of salt).

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    Very interesting posting. Thanks for making this available.

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    And another 'Anchor Whetstone' Mikael:

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    You can see this one also has an 'A.F. & Co' label. I suspect that AF&Co were importers - there are a number of straight razors marked AF&Co, possibly an early incarnation of Abercrombie and Fitch, Incidentally, there are also a lot of HB&Co branded razors!

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    Just did a bit research for fun....

    Razors with H.B. & Co. are mostly known as "H. Böker & Co." Germany with the Tree Brand which can be read in history here: Böker bietet Taschenmesser und Küchenmesser - Unternehmensgeschichte

    I don not think that ist is the same H.B. & Co. as mentioned here concerning these both Scythe stones because they have a different "Trademark" which was used here (Anchor with two stars)...

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    I tried to find some other traces just concerning the both acronyms (H.B. & Co. W and A.F. & Co. Germany)...
    the only reference i found were two companies which are a bit "far" away from sharpening stones business...

    There was a A.F. & Co. named "Freymann & Co, Weinheim" which was a company producing "rasps", also there company sign was a "Rasp in a Circle", as there is no Trademark printed on the label of the stone it could be a reference....

    The other thing i found on H.B. & Co. is that there was a company called "Anker Werk / Anchor Werk" which was formerly known as "Hengstenberg & Company" or "Carl Schmidt & Hengstenberg" which was in the Beginning a sewing machine company later they produced bicycles, officemachines and cash registers....Their Trademark is a Anchor, but without the two stars...they were in Westfalia, so thats might be were the W is coming from....

    Anker Werke - Rechnerlexikon

    Both examples are long shot guesses but there were no other findings using the "German Trademark Database" on these issues, though the labels on the stones say "trademark" the Anchor with two stars couldnt be found on the database...
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    The two white stones are likely scythe stones or something of the sort cut from pike washita material (almost two years late, i know). The red one looks like some kind of incantation of india stone material.
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    In the 1920s there was a firm called H. B. & Co. W. which stood for H. Bremicker & Co. Werkzeug und Maschinenfabrik in Bielefield, Germany. Their trademark was a globe though. They made tools machines, edged implements back then. Anker-Werke was also in Bielefield - their sign was a simple, single anchor, no stars. Possibly their was a short-lived joint enterprise, with an equally short lived new trademark for the whetstones - possibly.

    A. F. & Co. is Abercrombie & Fitch - established in 1892 as the Abercrombie Co by David Abercrombie. He was joined as co-owner in 1900 by Ezra Fitch and the firm became known as Abercrombie & Fitch Co, or A. F. & Co. They had a 456 page catalogue and sold - among other things - outdoors paraphenalia and clothing, rifles, knives edged implements, and sourced a lot of goods from europe through its import arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    In the 1920s there was a firm called H. B. & Co. W. which stood for H. Bremicker & Co. Werkzeug und Maschinenfabrik in Bielefield, Germany. Their trademark was a globe though. They made tools machines, edged implements back then. Anker-Werke was also in Bielefield - their sign was a simple, single anchor, no stars. Possibly their was a short-lived joint enterprise, with an equally short lived new trademark for the whetstones - possibly.

    A. F. & Co. is Abercrombie & Fitch - established in 1892 as the Abercrombie Co by David Abercrombie. He was joined as co-owner in 1900 by Ezra Fitch and the firm became known as Abercrombie & Fitch Co, or A. F. & Co. They had a 456 page catalogue and sold - among other things - outdoors paraphenalia and clothing, rifles, knives edged implements, and sourced a lot of goods from europe through its import arm.

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    Thanks Neil,

    did Abercrombie & Fitch also had a subsdiary in Germany ? I only ask because this bumper sticker explicit has printed A.F. & Co. Germany ?
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    I don't think they did at that time. The 'Germany' on the sticker is probably due to import law - country of origin mark, like on these A F & Co goods:

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    I don't know if you can make out the writing, but the 1950s Puma knife has 'Abercrombie & Fitch Co - Made In Germany' on the blade.

    They had a vast number of pre WW1 Luger pistols, imported the first Mah Jong sets (they sent emissaries to China to source every maker they could find), imported goods from Sheffield, Hoffritz made a Slant Bar Safety Razor for them and they had many 'badged' german straight razors.

    Their outdoor goods and camping goods were extensive, featuring knives, axes, etc, so it would not be unusual to find they had whetstones for the upkeep of these implements.

    However, I could be wrong on both counts - A. F. & Co and H. B. & Co. W. - it's happened before!

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    My Dad did Shotgun Resto work for A&Fs San francisco store.
    Was a real treat to go there several times a year (his forte was true rust Bluing and case hardning with colors)
    What a fantastic store,they only carried the best of the best.
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