just out of the box, further pics:
http://up.picr.de/17233677bj.jpg
saw marks and stamp:
http://up.picr.de/17233693gl.jpg
just the stone itself:
http://up.picr.de/17233717he.jpg
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just out of the box, further pics:
http://up.picr.de/17233677bj.jpg
saw marks and stamp:
http://up.picr.de/17233693gl.jpg
just the stone itself:
http://up.picr.de/17233717he.jpg
After having both stones together here in comparison i can confirm that they are out of the same material (Schist).
both have a near identical colour, one is a bit darker, the huge one has these smal points/spots which the labelled one doesnt have.
both have the metallic look.
And both have very fast cutting properties, when talking about a finishing stone....
http://show.picr.de/17234724oq.jpg.html
I would say "brevet contrôlé" or "breveté certifié".
This hone is in a stunning state ! Félicitations !
Added and updated videos:
Pierre aiguiser "La Lune" (Schist/Schiefer) - YouTube
Pierre Affuter Aiguiser "La Lune" (Schist/Schiefer) razor Hone, Sharpening Stone - YouTube
the second video shows the small labelled one in comparison to the bigger one
This are 2 La Luna stones that I've bought from France for me and one of my friends. The bigger one is 20x5x2.5 cm and the smaller is 11x5x1cm. Both are excelent finishers.
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Got those two hones, I'm wishing very hard waiting for the postman :angel:
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@Thaeris: what are these ? Second one seems like a Coti...
Yes the second one is a vintage combo coticule - BBW, and I hope that the first is a La Lune or an Escher :hmmm:
Rachim, nice first post!
Thaeris, looks can be deceiving but that first stone doesn't look that interesting.
@Rachim
could you post some further detailled pictures of the surface of your La Lune and Special Stone ?
For the moment I don't have photos with a better quality. I'll post what i have and in the weekend I try do make some photos with the camera on day light. I'll also ask my friend to take some for the Special stone.
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The last one is made at chinese 100x . :)
Got this huge brick today....a very fine dark reddish/brownish/maroon coloured stone...Size is about 7x2x1,5inch...
after lapping colour moved from maroon coloured to a darker brown/red...it has has a specific pattern on the surface. Both sides got really dark red and glassy after lapping, it is like the surface and colour with a view on the surface of the Top is lighter coloured the sides are more compact and the colour quite darker...
Slurry is greyish first then it gets more violet...as you can see on the slurry pics...
trying to make some strokes on this one it is shure that is removes metal fast (fast cutting) and it leaves a near mirror finish after 8-15 strokes...
As you can see down on the left side of the third picture there is also a kind of colour change and a kind of crystal inclusion:
a very dense (in weight) and quite hard stone (not as hard as a CF comparable to other compact shist stones)
My idea was just that this one could fit in the French Hones Thread because there were several stones having some identical colours and properties...
http://up.picr.de/17408208ub.jpg
http://up.picr.de/17408240zz.jpg
http://up.picr.de/17408242je.jpg
To complete the information about the Fox/Goldfisch Stone...i just saw today that the stone has some fine striations/layers which i did not see up to date on any picture....
http://up.picr.de/17589841vl.jpg
http://up.picr.de/17589817nd.jpg
There is color banding on this particular Fox /Goldfisch hone but no defined layering is present.
Mike
http://i.imgur.com/9yjqaKI.jpg
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Red La Lune!
The previous owner was a bit nervous when he removed the sticker!
Dimensions 140mm by 70mm.
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Congrats Gillaume nice one :-)
Nice stone! The sticker was glued to the wrong side of the stone (the good side with chamfered edges instead of the back side). So the previus owner had to get rid of it.......:banghead:
Got another one today i am very unsure about this one....it reminds me quite on the Lorraine Rouge like the Goldfisch/Fox Hone but its very homogenious in colour and material nearly no inclusions slurry is really red...its seems to be a schist or a fine sandstone
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7094/...a27fcc_c_d.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/...e97721_c_d.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/...2fea72_c_d.jpg
Special Stone for Good Razors with a nice Razor :-)
http://up.picr.de/18083135zg.jpg
wow doorsch, you seen to find very nice stones on a regular basis. What's your secret?
There is not a real secret, sorry to tell....at the past 12 months i really spent a lot of time searching on the bay and somewhere else....so probably the time might be a big part of it....i still did not get to search thru Fleamarkets and so...but i like to do this more
After a quick search, I found this catalog for the currently produced French stones:
http://www.pierre-a-aiguiser-naturel...logue_2014.pdf
Got the package today, some detail shots for the interested. The colour of the special stone looks like a kind of metallic lightgrey with parts of green and blue.....
The sawmarks are comparable to the ones posted here already, interesting is that both sides show different sawmarks (one side rough ones, the other side fine ones)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5478/...981098_c_d.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2920/...9bf611_c_d.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/...473a06_c_d.jpg
Sawmarks:https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2899/...db71a5_c_d.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5122/...b71c92_c_d.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5017/...a78a23_c_d.jpg
The razor which was included, removed the two nicks and honed it this evening....
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/...52e7d7_c_d.jpg
Anybody saw this one up to date, looks quite interesting. No La Lune Label in the classical look, but its an old one and
the print in the wooden box looks like the print which was done in the instructions/advertisement of the scythe La Lune Stones....to explain further more i added a comparison of the prints...
It says "Extra Fine La Lune"....what might the Stamp AD12 mean ?
Translation:
Manual: for correcting or setting the edge, start with New "Master Stone" (with petroleum), for finishing,
sharpening, [morfiler?] use the Natural Sharpening Stone "La Lune" with oil.
http://up.picr.de/18140156we.jpg
http://up.picr.de/18132641cw.jpg
The Combinaison "New Master Stone" / "Extra Fine La Lune Stone" arrived today. Its a Big Size probably comparable to the "Pierre de L'est bleue" which was posted on another board.
The size is:
12,5 x 6,5 x 2cm
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7408/...8ee4e6_c_d.jpg
The First Stone is the New Master Stone which is used to set the bevel, though its not mentioned for what, so this seems not to be a combination stone made for razors in general. The material is not really comparable to any Carborundum hone i ever had in my hand (as there was the reference the labelled Lune Master Stone on another board).
...it has bigger particles which also seems to glitter in the light, the whole conglomerate looks glassy...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7323/...1c1a9a_c_d.jpg
The second stone is a "Very Fine La Lune Stone" in a grey/greenish metallic look a like. It also has these slightly darker inclusions looking like short lines...is has the same sawmarks a shown in several threads beeing around for the French Hones / Special Stones....
As i got the smal "Special Stone for Good Razors" last week i can now for me personally confirm that these both stones are made out of the same material and must come out of the same quarry or region...
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/...aebddc_c_d.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2906/...1d4123_c_d.jpg
The interesting thing now is that for the first time there is given a historic price, i do not know from which date it is but writing with the supplier who had a company down the Vosges which was active between 1875 to 1972...
It is possible to delimit the timeframe when the stone was bought...my estimation is that this is between 1920-1950...
There is written in lead pencil 720 or 72 F...so we talk about francs but i am unsure if the amount of 720 might not be to high...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7362/...27b526_c_d.jpg
Concerning this combinaison stone its the first "La Lune" i have seen up to date which does not have the moon label which could be that this stone probably was sold in a certain time before the label was created....
So this example is in my thinking another step to further knowledge about these stones, so i hope there is more to come up....
I did a Video again for a comparison of this fine La Lune and the Special Stone for good razors. Its better to show the metallic look a like in a moved sequence then on still pictures...
http://youtu.be/41oPWmF_RiE
Well Sebastian,
you are getting more and more professional presentating your beautiful hones. Maybe you should think about becomming a video artist! :chapeau
Anyway great hones that you dig out - wherever!
72pt, 72ft or 72,0 t perhaps. 72 centimes seems like a possible value.
Thanks Piet thats why i called this price into question, 72 centimes do fit...
Edited: after the discussion on Coupechouxclub it seems to be that 72francs or 72centimes seems realistic...it depends on the timeframe...
Ma contribution à ce sujet.
FGBC = F. Ghelfi Birolleau & Cie
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Merci Ferdi!!! Cest la solution....tres bon travail!!! How did you find them or how did you find the catalogue...
Great so the combinaison Master Stone seems to had a La Lune label too...so it was removed then!
@margeja:
Henk iam still unsure about this BBW/Rouge Du Salm interpretations sometimes...just added a picture of a BBW and a Rouge Du Salm in my definition....is that something you can agree on in terms of colour and appearence ? Slurry of the red one is really red, vine red...the BBW one is a natural combination stone...the red "Rouge Du Salm" was a seperate stone with only this kind of material...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/...970d16_c_d.jpg
Sorry doorsch,
This type of link is not readable for me...
With regards, Henk Bos
Another try:
http://up.picr.de/18305823vy.jpg
It is interesting what detailed information you can find about a special topic if you only get the right keywords!
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I was able to get this much from Google Translator. Unfortunately when I clicked on the link to Les Ecrits 1887-1911 http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blo...3;src=postname I don't have permission to view the page. Whatever that is about. :beer2:
Merviller village of Lorraine
Discover the history of the Lorraine countryside village which has a time like the present Sahara has very fine sand that under the influence of the iron oxide is solidified to form a grain stone fine providing remarkable grindstones tooling shipped throughout France