Well my fellow razor fans what say you? I prefer to sharpen the entirety of my razor and even us the heel occasionally for hard to hit areas. I try to stay away from blades that have double stablizers, because its doesn't look pretty when that heel gets honed up. My TI Dandy is great though since you can hit the heel and the stabilizer is recessed. What is your preference/thoughts on the matter? Are there any other heel honers out there?
Yeah but I re-contour the heel and shoulder before I hone, to make sure it is out of the way, just like it should be ...
But yeah the whole edge gets honed
That's interesting! I would never have thought to not hone the heel.
But I guess that explains all those angled blades on the Bay. Hu!
I've had a few of those 'bay razors that have to have heel work before they can be properly honed.
Don't some people hang the heel slightly off the stone to make sure it doesn't get honed? Glen, I know that now for future blades but I'm too lazy to go back and redo a bunch of blades that shave well with shoulder, bevel creep. I honestly try and find shoulderless blades with half hollow or heavier grinds now. That does not seem to leave a lot of options for new factory blades though.
what ever sits flat on the hone gets it
By the way... Is it weird I'm currently honing while watching Battlestar Galactica on Netflix and intermittently checking SRP threads or is this a normal thing for ya'll as well?
Nope not weird at all sounds perfectly normal to me :D
The problem that will eventually develop by "Hanging the Heel" or from the Shoulder getting in the way is a Hooked Heel which will cut ya, I know myself and other have pics of them on here you might try a quick search...
I know what you mean; there was just a thread recently where I guy had that issue on his restore. Actually, I really enjoyed your breadknifing vid and learned a ton especially about contouring the shoulder. I never knew to do that as well when shaping the heel. Thanks for taking the time to do all of those for the benefit of everyone! Since it eventually causes the heel spur why do guys do it? I try to get the entire blade each time and after watching that vid I now know to preemptively pull back that shoulder. Unfortunately, I have enough new projects in the pipes I probably won't go back until a thorough rehone is needed or I plan to sell to feed the RAD.
Honestly I can't answer, there is so much info on here about how to fix issues etc:
I can't say why people just don't ask like you just did, SRP has a wealth of info and members that are right here to help out :shrug:
Soo glad I came across this thread. If it is ok with you guys I'd like to know how to proceed with this blade. The spine has a slight smile. It is an extra hollow. And I had to butter knife it. It had a wicked crack in the blade. Attachment 170595Attachment 170596
I mute the very point of a razor and the heel - like a mm of each and not much muting, just a little on my finest stone, just so they can't scratch or cut on the tip.
I had a french tip razor early in my shaving history where the edge went out the tip and up a little (e.g., it went around the tip like a machete), I don't know why. I didn't mute it at the time and got a fillet type cut from it.
I never hang the heel, like glen says, it turns into a digging tool if done too often. just mute the last little bit of it if you're worried about getting an unwanted scratch or dig.
I'd personally round that corner off a little bit on the back. It can't do anything good. I'd only round as much off as it took to get it cosmetically not looking squared up there, which would probably be a few strokes on a hard 1k stone. Then you can hone the whole edge without it getting in the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by razornut
+1 YeppersQuote:
Originally Posted by DaveW
Check out the video by Gssixgun I mentioned earlier to get a visual example of rounding the heel. Also it shows how to quickly get the bevel going again after you breadknife a blade.Quote:
Originally Posted by razornut
Yup, that will cut you.
Take a dime and try different radius with a sharpie till you get one you like and it doesn’t look like you dropped it. Then take a diamond plate and resting the razor on the spine lightly file the corner to match the sharpie ink. WD40 removes the ink if you want to change the radius. It is much easier to remove and redraw ink, than to put steel back on.
The steel is very thin here so go easy, it comes off quick. Take your time, make it look good. After you do a few you can do it by eye.
I shave with the whole blade, so I hone the whole blade.
Sometimes you have to thin the stabilizer to get the heel on the stone, another job for the diamond plate. EZE lap diamond stick excel here.
IF the razor is as heavily breadknifed as op says it is, I would say more than a cosmetic rounding of the heel might be needed as establishing a new bevel will quickly eat into the heel again.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveW
I would mark a point on the blade approx 1/16" forward of the stabiliser & grind a gradual curve back towards the tang. It will not be this razor's only honing so it's good to future proof IMHO.
