Curious how these compare. I'm looking for an 8000 grit or a combination with an 8000. Taidea is a lot cheaper.
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Curious how these compare. I'm looking for an 8000 grit or a combination with an 8000. Taidea is a lot cheaper.
I hadn't heard of the Taidea until this thread. I did a search for it on amazon and there are favorable reviews, and not so favorable. The one thing I can say, is that Norton and Shapton have a large following here. If you got stuck and inquired of guys on this forum, not too many could speak to the characteristics of that stone. Many of us know the Norton and Shapton. Check out the reviews on amazon and see what you think. :gl:
I only have experience with Shapton glass stones. They cut fast and leave a mirror polished edge. The micron size of each stone takes all the guess work out of the equation. The only drawback is the price and the Shapton recommended diamond glass lapping plate.
At one time that was considered 'state of the art' and I got one. Nice in that the grooves overcome stiction and maybe closer tolerances than the DMT, but not worth the extra $ AFAIC. The DMT D8C will get the job done but the Atoma diamond plate series is now the state of the art, at far less $ than the Shapton GDLP, more than the DMT, but far more efficient than any other plate I've had. Well worth the $ if you do a fair amount of honing/lapping. IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltspanky
I have a couple of taidea hones, 5k and 8k. I like them, but I don't use them for my razors. Not bad at all, but I don't think they compare to shaptons or naniwas. The norton I don't know terribly well, I don't have one I'm afraid.
What else will you be using? Because grit scales can vary among manufacturers, it can be helpful for you to use a series from the same line. They will play better together.Quote:
Originally Posted by 777funk
For my work I use Naniwa products exclusively (except for lapping).
I too have the DGLP and love it!
Lynn talked me into it several years ago and he said I would not regret it and I never have. In my opinion it WAS worth the extra money as it worked better than anything else for the regular refreshing that I do on SuperStone and GlassStones. Nothing works better for refreshing hones.
Yeah, I agree that it's a really good lapping plate. But it's $379.00. It is glass and you only get one "whoops" with it. I don't knock it's performance, just that there are other options that have come out since it's inception that are less expensive and IMHO do the job equally well. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Best Regards,
Howard :)
In lower grits probably would not matter, but higher grits, buy quality. A good finish stone is a life time purchase. They are not that much cheaper, more importantly they are a little small…
When you are starting out size, matters, larger is better…
Recently bought an 8X3 in, I Wood 300 Diamond Plate, the diamonds are in a diamond grooved pattern and work great for lapping, no sticking. They are priced about the same as DMT’s
Wow, I don't remember how much I paid for mine but it was way less than that. Let me know if you ever want to thin your collection, that is, if you want to sell for way less than that!Quote:
Originally Posted by SirStropalot
:D If I ever get that crazy desire to part with it........you'll be the first to know, promise!! :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Cool!
I promise I'll give it a good home!
I think a Norton 4/8 is a really good choice because as Jimmy said so many people have one. Plus you get the 4 AND the 8...
Then there is the naniwa 3/8 I have nothing to compare them to but I have both as separate hones and they seem very nice. My logic with getting separate stones was that cost wise it was near identical and if I dropped one I would only lose one hone not two.
ed, do you have trouble dropping things? Get a big bar of alum and keep your fingers covered and think like Spiderman.:D
No richard I am just tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorfeld
:)
I just discovered LOOSE Silicon Carbide grit that can be put on a Granite Tile with some spritzed water with a drop of soap in it and used to lap a stone back to flat (figure 8 pattern working around the plate). Nothing was working for my hard arkansas oil stone and this got it done pretty quickly. I'll bet it'll work even faster for a waterstone. A bag of grit lasts a long time and is cheap ($5 on ebay).
Loose grit works great for Hard Naturals, but synthetics are much softer and you run the risk of imbedding grit in them.
Wet and Dry 320 grit is much better and a Diamond plate better yet and much quicker and easier.
A Quality diamond plate is about 50 bucks.
Try your loose grit dry on the Ark.Quote:
Originally Posted by 777funk
Will try that next time I need to flatten that Ark.
Ditto what he said ^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by feltspanky
I don't use the SG lapping plate. Opted for DMT instead
Brought the taidea when I first started as it was cheap. Found it to be soft requiring constant lapping and a little slow and didn't perform anywhere near as well as the naniwas I got later. Spend the extra these stones are going to last a long time so a little extra is worth it over the years you will be using them. If you do get the taidea get something to finish with after.Quote:
Originally Posted by 777funk