Tape on Jnats

I have never honed a razor without tape. :shrug: I've been honing for 3 years maybe.
Now I have moved onto Jnats, although im still setting the bevel with synthetics .
Do you think there is a possibility that the the tape could ware onto the jnat and alter the surface structure?
Should I set the bevel with tape and then get rid of the tape for the Jnat progression?
Or can I just get your thoughts on tape.
One thing I know is that I've always honed with 2 layers of tape unless its a full hollow then I use one layer.
If I ditch the tape now my bevels will get fatter.
Cheers

Dude, it’s a rock… an expensive rock, but still just a rock. Tape won’t hurt it.

+1, not a problem. I've used tape for years; Alx has started using scotch tape which wears rapidly - with no "contamination".


rs,
Tack

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Originally Posted by Euclid440

Dude, it’s a rock… an expensive rock, but still just a rock. Tape won’t hurt it.

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Its not just a rock , wow , my Nakayama has feelings you know :cry:

I know, I know but just don’t let it see the screen… and it will be ok…
(Freak Show…)

Seriously, tape residue can easily be removed with a slurry stone, high grit diamond plate or just a green scotch brite on a sponge.

Scotch Brite is what I do with Super Stones that load up more than any other, it’s quick.

Yes, your bevel will get wider if you hone without tape, after honing with tape but not that much, a lot depends on the grind.

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Originally Posted by JOB15

Should I set the bevel with tape and then get rid of the tape for the Jnat progression?
Or can I just get your thoughts on tape.

Cheers

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I would do the opposite set bevel w/o tape and then use tape to finish.
Or just use tape all the way through.
It seems to me that setting the bevel with tape and then removing to finish would mean a lot of work on your finisher.
But I could be wrong about that.

No problem with tape. I've got a kikuboshi razor that I thought was junk. It can't take much of an edge without tape and it can't hold an edge that you establish more than one shave without tape.

With two pieces of electrical tape, it's golden, a shockingly good shaver that holds its edge superbly. It sees only Jnats (with the tape).

It literally wouldn't take a good edge off of anything, coticules included, without tape. The tape doesn't clog the jnat, but more importantly, it doesn't pull particles loose on a hard jnat like jigane (soft iron or wrought) will with tools or knives. It's harmless.

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Originally Posted by JaberCrow

I would do the opposite set bevel w/o tape and then use tape to finish.
Or just use tape all the way through.
It seems to me that setting the bevel with tape and then removing to finish would mean a lot of work on your finisher.
But I could be wrong about that.

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You're on the right track but missed the train anyway. If you set the bevel with tape, the easiest way to transition to a non-taped bevel is then to do some non tape strokes on the bevel setter, not the finisher.

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Originally Posted by JaberCrow

I would do the opposite set bevel w/o tape and then use tape to finish.
Or just use tape all the way through.
It seems to me that setting the bevel with tape and then removing to finish would mean a lot of work on your finisher.
But I could be wrong about that.

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What utopian said....but

if you have a razor that has trouble holding an edge, or you just appreciate microbeveling in general, you can do what you suggested. If you do it often, you'll incur spinewear. If that's the case, see various threads in this forum re: vintage linens and their ability to give you a couple of hundred shaves before seeing an abrasive again.

Some rocks are quite fragile and you wouldn't want to put tape anywhere near them. However, none of those are useful as hones.

I guess I want to know how it feels/sounds to hone on a jnat without tape.

I have a blade that I use 3 layers of tape on and now and then I think lets get it set with 2 layers because it would just be better for the edge.
After some time and a fattened bevel I realise I will have to use 3 layers to get rite to the edge.
So removing tape after a bevel setting isn't such a bright idea.

Without tape it sounds like: schwttttttt
With tape it sounds like: schwuttttt
With tape it feels like wearing plastic on your feet.
Without tape it feels like going barefoot.

Empirical data should not be ruled out.

Silence is golden but duct tape is silver.

I'm sorry what was the question ?

Oh yeah. Jnats laugh at tape but rarely at my bad jokes.

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Originally Posted by JOB15

I guess I want to know how it feels/sounds to hone on a jnat without tape.

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So just pick a razor that already has some hone wear, or one that you don't mind some hone wear on and do it. I would recommend just setting the bevel without tape. Try it, you'll like it. You can always go back to tape.

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Originally Posted by bluesman7

So just pick a razor that already has some hone wear, or one that you don't mind some hone wear on and do it. I would recommend just setting the bevel without tape. Try it, you'll like it. You can always go back to tape.

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My blades don't have hone ware.
I was thinking I could try with one of my brothers razors :ziplip:

Tape will not hurt any Jnat.

+1, no issue with using tape.

I generally tape with one layer of electrical tape right from bevel set all the way through to finished edge (because I dont like the look of spine wear, just my preference!) and have encountered no issue with any stone.