Razor shoulder catching on hone

It's a Chinese Waterstone, from The Invisible Edge: https://www.theinvisibleedge.co.uk/c...12k-waterstone

Just wondering, when you go to that stone it may take allot of light strokes. But if it refines the edge then that is what matters. Good luck and keep us posted.

Cheers! Once I've got a decent shave on the 8k, I'll tart it up on the 12k and see if I notice much a difference.

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Originally Posted by Grenage

Cheers! Once I've got a decent shave on the 8k, I'll tart it up on the 12k and see if I notice much a difference.

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Go very light on the strokes. It should not take too many to refine that edge. Good luck.

Bob

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Originally Posted by Grenage

It's a Chinese Waterstone, from The Invisible Edge: https://www.theinvisibleedge.co.uk/c...12k-waterstone

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So in other words your Chinese hone might be more coarse than your 8k hone. Grit ratings are fairly meaningless for natural hones and the only way to determine where they fit in a progression is testing and observation.

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Originally Posted by Utopian

So in other words your Chinese hone might be more coarse than your 8k hone. Grit ratings are fairly meaningless for natural hones and the only way to determine where they fit in a progression is testing and observation.

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I had no idea that would be the case; I will bear that in mind when I give it a go. How frustrating that the grit rating isn't consistent!

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I had no idea that would be the case; I will bear that in mind when I give it a go. How frustrating that the grit rating isn't consistent!

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Grit ratings are constant with synthetic hones. That is one of the reasons they get recommended when beginning to hone. Just one less variable to deal with.

Bob

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Grit ratings are constant with synthetic hones. That is one of the reasons they get recommended when beginning to hone. Just one less variable to deal with.

Bob

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What's the point in even stating a grit level if they aren't sure? I digress, and rant. It is what it is, and I'll see what it's like once I'm half-competent. :)

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Grit ratings are constant with synthetic hones. That is one of the reasons they get recommended when beginning to hone. Just one less variable to deal with.

Bob

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Well, yes and no. They are constant within a given hone line, but not between different lines.

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What's the point in even stating a grit level if they aren't sure? I digress, and rant. It is what it is, and I'll see what it's like once I'm half-competent. :)

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There is no point. This is recent marketing BS and it is extremely deceptive.

Have you ever heard of a 12k coticule or a 14k Escher? How about a 30k Nakayama?

Nope. At least not among the old stuff. The problem is that everyone demands a number. There are regular posts in which people ask, "what grit is it?" To flat out state a grit rating on a natural hone either is fraud or ignorance. The only thing that can be done responsibly is to state that a hone produces a scratch pattern equivalent to some synthetic hone, but even that needs to be taken with a grain of salt (of undetermined grit).

Well every day is an education; I'll bear that in mind for future purchases - which will hopefully not be for a long time!