So, test shave complete.
First was the 12k edge with ILR. It wasn't the worst shave in the world wasn't the best. I do not believe this stone improved a 12k Naniwa edge. I believe it took it back to about 5k. I had better shaves off Norton 1/4 stones when I first got the hang of honing.
The second was 8k edge with ILR. This was not even useable. I finished with the other blade. It tugged and was not even close to acceptable.
I am not giving in yet, I am going to try and get the 12k and ILR to improve. Is that possible.... We shall see.