so ive never done the 1k challenge, and decided to take it up a notch to the Walmart tri-hone challenge instead :}
https://youtu.be/teoXWouw0Eg
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so ive never done the 1k challenge, and decided to take it up a notch to the Walmart tri-hone challenge instead :}
https://youtu.be/teoXWouw0Eg
Another great video Joe.
Really looking forward to seeing the shave report for this one.
Pete <:-}
I am standing by to see how the shave goes.
It was an interesting video.
thanks fellas!
the shave was a bit rough and not as close as a higher grit edge, but I think that is to be expected. I really think there is a lot more in that fine ark than what I got out of it, and will go back sooner or later and smooth it out with a kitchen knife or something and then try it again. I don't know what grit it is, or how fine I can get it, but it did work well enough to get a shave out of it :}
I thought about doing a shave on the video, but had just shaved that morning, plus it was already a long video, and im not quite sure I want to bring youtube into my bathroom to do a shave in front of the camera...…..
Do u plan on leaving the swarf on the stone, after rubbing the kitchen knife on it.? Oil or water.? For honing.
I ask this, because up to a few years ago, I only honed on one stone. I don't know what it is, just that it was a hand me down, from within the family. Granddad's, my dads, to me. Like u, it wasn't the high grt. shaves we all enjoy, but usable.
But its I'd say 1000 grt. And what I would do is leave the swarf from honing knives n such, imbedded in the hone.
This causes a reduction the aggressiveness / cutting ability, of the stone, and causes more of a act of burnishing. I used water.
Then it was stropping the bejesus out of it. Mind you I'm self taught for the most part, and had no internet, and limited to what I had for honing on.
My strop...an ol leather belt, that I'd grown out of. The inside suede part of the belt was for two pastes. Red rouge, and a buffing compound from my dads garage.
One razor...one stone...ol leather belt.
That's how I shaved, for almost 30yrs.
Still got my kit..!
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I did buy some Remington, Ark. Tri Hones years back, made an improvement to my hone.
So I'd agree with your tests so far, but try the swarf, if it interest you.
outback,
that's a heck of a story, I love it! :}
that fine stone still has some roughness to it that I think will smooth out just with some use. I haven't decided exactly what ill do to it yet. whether lap it with another stone, or just sharpen some knives with it or what. and then I had kinda thought about taking it off the holder, and smoothing one side, and then burnishing the other, then perhaps cutting a groove in each end and making clamps to hold it back to the holder that fit into the grooves.
I do know that the fine stone on that set is mighty soft for an Arkansas, the old file I used to knock down the corners cut into it pretty easy. so I think id have to be pretty carefull in smoothing or burnishing it to avoid dishing it.
Try rubbing it with the side of a Phillips screwdriver, then leave that metal on the stone, maybe.
Flats of wood chisels work well
I don't want to put the quash on your project, but I believe the 1k challenge stipulated no CrOx or excessive stropping.:boohoo:
tartarsauce….. well ok, ill have to do it all over again then :}
I thought this was more about what can be expected of a Chinese outlet store, hone. And how far it can be pushed.
Yeah, I agree with that part, but you can't really compare it to the 1k challenge if you use paste.Quote:
Originally Posted by outback
Keith Johnson has gone 1k, to a three paste progression, to a shaving edge.
As far as how cheap you can go we found the King 1k/6k for about $30. That and CrOx is a workable system, though at this point I don't mind shaving with it, but it's not an edge that I would send out.
The Washita in Joe's kit can almost surely be tuned up to at least equal a 1k, so there is that.
IMO we need to differentiate between how cheap we can get a decent edge, and how crappy of an edge one can shave with.
I'm just in awe of your shaving with that setup for decades, Mike. As I recall, Glenn did something similar.
Not sure I could get a good shave off of the tri-hone. But I used to teach Scouts to hone knives on a tri-hone. Knives, hatchets and fire were always my worry on camp-outs. I used to dread the prospect of meeting one of their helicopter moms at an ER; thankfully, no serious injuries happened on my watch!
I think this thread is about whatever we decide it is :}
I just wanted to play around with different stones and razors, saw the tri-hone at Walmart and thought, well there is a cheap path to entertainment :} I suppose I could have bought a new release dvd and some microwavable popcorn for that $24.97, but stones are never a waste of money are they?
today I shaved with a old Kropp with a dans translucent Arkansas edge on it. I bought the trans ark from a pawnshop for $10 in brand new condition. didn't do anything to it, honed the razor and took it for a spin. then my boy and I worked up half a steer that has been in my homebuilt walk in meat cooler for a bit over 2 weeks now, and I decided to play with the ark from the tri-hone set on 2 of my boning knives with my beloved dmt 325 edge on the third. figured it would smooth out the ark a bit, and its been awhile since I tried out a different edge on one of my kitchen knives.
the tri-hone ark feels much smoother and more consistent now, though I haven't taken a razor to it yet. and that edge did well on the steer. it wasn't as aggressive as my dmt 325, but it was definitely serviceable, and a pleasant edge to work with. so that got me to thinking about oilstones. so...…. I have a soft and hard ark coming from natural whetstone company, and a dan's soft ark/black combo and silicone carbide loose grit in 3 sizes coming from amazon to play with. I usually go through a couple of the dmt's a year, but the last 3 that I have received haven't been all that great, 2 had big chunks of diamonds all over the stone, like the spray nozzle was partially plugged, and this last one just doesn't seem as aggressive as it should. I like Waterstones, but they don't give me that crisp edge feel like the dmt {on a knife}, im wondering if the arks will be an inbetween, keep them lapped with the loose grit like a Waterstone, yet a crisp edge like a dmt.
anyways, I have to finish a couple nice neckers in cottonwood burl tomorrow, and some slipjoints and togglelocks at the beginning of the week, but maybe by the middle or end of the week I can get that razor back on the tri-hone and see if I can get a better edge, and I wont use crox, or do a lot of stropping and see what happens :}
oh, the dan's stone that I have coming seems like a pretty good deal at $80 shipped for a 2x8x.5" combo soft/black if anyone is looking for one.
and scouthikerdad, you must have been a pretty good teacher if you never had any serious injuries :}
I almost want to buy one of these tri-hones for knives because it seems like such a good deal, but I don't need anymore of these types of hones. It would be even better if the hones were not fastened to the triangle base IMO. Does it seem like they could be removed or the base could be cut down easily? I guess I'll check it out the next time I'm at walmart.
I removed mine from the wood. I think I soaked them in water, then carefully removed them with a couple putty knifes.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesman7
it doesn't look like you can remove the stones easily, but they should come off somehow. its got a plastic base, and the base is ok for what it is. for normal knife sharpening, the stones are pretty tiny for my tastes, I really like stones that are as big as I can get them. the soft and hard arks I ordered were 10x3x1. I only got the 8x2x1 dans black with the soft ark on the backside as I shouldn't be using that stone very often. I think these will end up in my work truck for touchups once I get done playing with them.
