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I have both stones, new in boxes, and can return either. Figure from what I've read here, that its a no brainer to keep the Shapton. Is there any reason to keep the Kitayama? Ok, is there any compelling reason....ok something inbetween....any reasonable reason to keep the kitayama?
Thanks all.
Jim
Yes, you might drop the Shapton.
Drop the Shapton 16K? How dare you say such things. That's an outrage!:rant:
It's good to see you back, English. It seems you've been away for a bit.
I really like my Shapton 16k if you didn't already gather that.
Chris L
Its an intermediate grit and its just plain cool.
Which one are you referring to Leighton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leighton
Thanks
The Kitayama 12k.
I was speaking to the hone guy at Japan Woodworker months ago and he told me that he preferred the 12k Kitiyama to the Shapton. I have never had one so I don't know but if I did have it I would try it for awhile and see where it fits in. If I concluded that I had no need of it I would put it in the classifieds and probably get close to what I paid.
It all depends on the stone you use before the Shapton 16K. A progression from 6K to 16K might be too big a leap, if you have a coticule or anything else in te area of 12 K you don't need the Kitayama.
Well. Just think of the fun you can have competing one versus the other. Then after a few months you can report back here with the results. (I've been doing exactly that with a GS 16K and a Naniwa 10K.)
I have neither, but they both sound like excellent finishing/polishing hones. I think both are worth trying out. You might even establish a hybrid system that encorporates both of them into your honing. I have a coticule and a thuringian hone, both are polishing stones, but I found a way of using both! Just a few laps on the coticule, then a few on the thuringian. No reason why you couldn't try the same, ex. 5 laps on the kitayama and 5 on the shapton 16k for touch-ups.
Isn't half the fun of having your own hones practicing and experimenting with them? I say keep both. :rock:
I love my Shapton 16K. I recently have been using the naniwa 12K super stone that Lynn and Don sell and I'm highly impressed. Even so that I haven't used my Shapton 16K for a while now.
Does this mean I'll never use the Shapton 16K anymore. No, it just means that every razor sometimes demands a different approach and finishing stone.
If you intend on expanding your razor collection and do your own honing I would keep both the 12K Kit and 16K Shapton or get the 12k naniwa.
Thanks all! Will keep them both and report back. Dont expect my report soon....have to do a better job with the basics. Getting there: today I shaved with an ebay purchase that I honed myself. Not like yours (yet) Max!!
Jim
I LOVE my Kitayama.... And its an 8000 grit stone by the way. This is what the manufacturer says. The Japan Woodworker advertised this stone for awhile at 12,000 but the manufacture asked them to call it an 8000 as that what it is. It dose seem to have a nicer finish than other 8000 i have tried.The Kitiyama and a CrOx stropping served me well for years. It doesn't really relate to shaving but if you like to sharpen knifes free hand, the Kitayama has the best feedback of any man made stone i have ever used by far.... way better than glass stones. Its a pure pleasure to use freehand.
I have a kitiyama 12k i was recomended it by a honmeister who uses it after 8k norton which is what i have. I never found alot of differance using it but i did'nt give it much chance as i bought a coticule blue and yellow now they made a big differance straight away i don't need ch.5 now. The 5 razors i brought from the honmeister were all honed n 4k/8k 12kiti and i have to say they were exallant but after bbw and yellow i could tell the differance espesialy around nose and chin area.never used 16k so carn't coment get rid of both and get coticule.