Shaving straight off the Naniwa 12k versus Shapton 16k

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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Drop the strop altogether, seriously want to learn what your edges are really like, shave off the stone alone... OOOOooooo that even rhymes....

Trying it that way I think the Naniwa 12k is a bit smoother, the Shapton system IMHO will get the edge a bit sharper....

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Will do. Thanks for the input! I like smooth, sharpness I already have plenty of, or I wouldn't be doing 1-pass ATG.

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Originally Posted by cotdt

0.1 micron diamond paste on balsa gives the sharpest razor, but don't you get weepers when you shave with such a razor? I find that I still need to use a little pressure while shaving for the closest possible shave, and the skin feels slightly raw afterwards.

I back off the diamonds and get perfect shaves every time. Then again I'm using a stainless with a really thin grind and an acute edge, a lot depends on the razor.

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What I've been doing lately is honing a razor up to the 8k level and shaving. If it is good on the next day I will go on to a higher grit and polish or maybe see if I can get it sharper off of a dry barber hone. Firctionite, Swaty, or Carborundum.

Maybe with the same razor on the following day or maybe a different one go with 1.0 on balsa followed by 0.5 in sequence. Strop and shave. I did that today and got a smooth shave with no weepers.

I think I cut off all of the high spots, moles or what have you with my Merkur Slant with the Feather blade back when I was a DE shaver. :) I never get weepers with a straight and rarely a nick. I used to get both with the DE.

Does the Shapton 16k load up with metal like the Naniwa 12k does?

I have used 12k naniwa it does load up alittle i watched howard use 16k it does load up from what i could see on the dvd and he did mention this.
I've been doing what jimmy has been doing shaving of 8k then adding a polisher ie coticule then somthing differant the next time i'm quite surprised how good the shave is of 8k norton the coticule does add tiny bit more smoothness i will try 12k naniwa and compare

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Originally Posted by gary haywood

I have used 12k naniwa it does load up alittle i watched howard use 16k it does load up from what i could see on the dvd and he did mention this.
I've been doing what jimmy has been doing shaving of 8k then adding a polisher ie coticule then somthing differant the next time i'm quite surprised how good the shave is of 8k norton the coticule does add tiny bit more smoothness i will try 12k naniwa and compare

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That's OK, the stone tends to work better when it's loaded up anyway. Thanks for the comments.