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Was wondering what the defining moment was and how many razors you went through for the experianced honer's to finaly achive a truley shave sharp edge. I have been at it for awhile and never get consistant good results and leave the hones frustrated. I find it very difficult to keep my razor steady and balanced on the hone, my away stroke is not as consistant as my toward stroke. Your thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated. Time for a beer. Cheers
Time for a beer here too, as my 11 day vacation just began.
As i started with my first razor (a Swede) it was already quite sharp. It belonged to my late grandfather. A method i used was to hone it - try shaving with it -hone it again until i finally got ok shave. Once you get there you know the difference. A difference between almost shave ready and shave ready razor.
Nowadays i use the skin on my thumb. Once it cuts cleanly - with no effort and almost like DE blade, then i know it is ok for shaving. Quite unorthodoxic but that works for me.
Hi Sailor, any idea how much trail an error on the the Naniwa 5k 8k 12k before you would have to reset the bevel? My test is the tree top test just trying to pop the tops of my arm hair.
I do not have Naniwas. I have some unnamed 1k japanese stome and i can cut my arm hair with that.
Even though the hanging hair test is seemingly not too well thought of, it was very important to me in learning to hone. I hone on the 12K, and then try the HHT. I am not interested in whether the hair is cut, but how much it vibrates while the razor drops into and out of the gaps between the scales (right term?) of the hair follicle. This gives me feedback on the blade, whether it is getting sharper (more vibration, finally ending in cut hair) or not.
If I didn't use the HHT, and only used the shave test, it would have taken much, much longer to learn. Using the HHT, while stropping for example, I don't have to go all the way to the shave test to see that I've overstropped and dulled the blade. When I see the vibration lessen, I know!
The feedback and learning curve greatly decreased using the HHT.
Now, the required proviso clause. Everyone's hair is different, yada, yada. This technique might be just what you need. It might be a worthless idea too.
The problem you are having with your stroke is normal until your muscles learn the stroke. Everyone has a different learning curve, however, it's like throwing a knife or shooting a bow. You need lots of practice & constant repetition of the right action.... & patience :)
great advice. thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by onimaru55
After watching some videos, including this this series ( decided to try starting out with 2-handed. honing. Worked first time out like a charm. I couldn't believe it. Unless the blade needs a rolling stroke, I think 2-handed is pretty reliable - I don't find it difficult to keep a light touch, as others have reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by wuff
After honing maybe 8-9 razors (all starting out with no bevel to speak of), I tried my hand at 1-handed honing by touching up a razor on a barber's hone. The grit's so fine you can't really do much damage, I think. Now I tend to hone 1-handed, though if I am impatient, I can dash through 2-handed much more quickly.
So I don't want to spark a controversy here, but maybe give 2-handed honing a try?
Basset, I have tried honing with two hands and it is helpfull however one handed is my absolute goal. I remember watching one of Lynn's video's he says while honing to keep your elbow high this has helped alot when honing with one hand.
I think one of my problem's is patience just when i think I have it down I start to rush and end up frustrated back where I started. Some great advice guys.
hi bud gl: I really enjoy your video's and find them to be very informative and helpful. Thanks
Pretty much got it on the first try and believe it or not I use two hands. Just cannot seem to keep blade flat or light pressure with one hand.
Not bragging just lucky I guess, however have only honed about 3 razors and none that needed rolling strokes.
Good luck
If it works do it. If something different works for others try it a while ...You might like it better :)
"I never met a razor I couldn't easily hone".
Do you think anyone here would ever say yes to that statement. I'm betting no one would. I know I wouldn't. The more you do this the more you learn and there are challenges aplenty for everyone, even honemeisters.