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12-05-2010, 02:46 PM
gary haywood

dmt 4k/8k/coti

i normaly do all my honing on coticule.

so today i fancyed a change and got my very first hone out . the 4k/8k combo. which we don't here much about these days.

any way i set the bevel on my henkels. the razor was able to shave arm hair easily. this indicates the bevel is set nicley.

then i did 60 laps on 4k norton then i did 20 laps on 8k followed by another 10 laps on 8k. i felt that the razor was shave ready at this stage.

i then did 50 laps on coticule my hybrid side.

this process did'nt take long.
and it was quite easy.

the shave was as good as it gets . infact if i did'nt no any other i would of thought this razor had been honed on just coticule alone. the edge was smooth and gentle as coticule .

so this method is also very simple . and it does work very well .

cheers gary
12-05-2010, 02:50 PM
JimmyHAD

Gary, the dmt you set the bevel with was the 1200 ? I guess that is a given but for the benefit of new guys it is worth mentioning. The norton 4/8 is a great workhorse and the shave you can get from it alone is quite good. The coticule being icing on the cake. :)
12-05-2010, 02:53 PM
gssixgun

Gary did you use a light slurry as you started on the Coticule???
That seems to work best for me... I call it "training" the edge to the stone..
12-05-2010, 03:04 PM
gary haywood

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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Gary, the dmt you set the bevel with was the 1200 ? I guess that is a given but for the benefit of new guys it is worth mentioning. The norton 4/8 is a great workhorse and the shave you can get from it alone is quite good. The coticule being icing on the cake. :)

yes i should be more clear. i set bevel on a old dmt 1200 6x2 i quite like the dmt's especialy for bevel setting.

then it was straight to 4k then 8k.

i used just water on my coticule i guess you could start on a very yhin misty slurry then finish on water. i used just water, the edge was smooth as. may be 1o laps on crox would be a nice finish to.
12-05-2010, 03:16 PM
zib

Geez Gary, You mean to tell me you "Normally" use a Coticule, I'm glad you told me, I never would have known that....:rofl2:

Gary, The Nortons and Naniwa's are great, Nice consistent results. The real workhorses if you will. I tell guys this all the time.
The Coti adds a nice finishing touch...Well Done Mate!...Glad to see you use something else....

I just received an Ebay special in the mail, an old Torrey, "The Celebrated" It'll looks nice, I did some resto yesteray, and today I'll break out the Norton 1k, and then the Nani's and try Glen's method...
12-05-2010, 03:27 PM
gary haywood

my first ever hone was my 4k'8k and i all ways held on to it. infact a mate of mine cut it in half so mine is 8x1.5 , but its a great size... i do agree i can see why they get recomended so often.i always did like my nortons . with a little bit more no how i can get the most out of the nortons, then try some differant finishers
12-05-2010, 03:50 PM
life2short1971

Gary do you get a massive case of stiction on the hybrid side where the blade actually stops or wants to with no pressure even and you have to force it along when under water?
12-05-2010, 04:18 PM
gary haywood

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Originally Posted by life2short1971

Gary do you get a massive case of stiction on the hybrid side where the blade actually stops or wants to with no pressure even and you have to force it along when under water?

yes i newster get a lot of sticky ness but for some reason it has calmed down with use . i'd give it a real good lapping. i get a magnetic feel still. and the odd judger. i think it due to doing so many laps with back and forth strokes,
12-05-2010, 04:27 PM
holli4pirating

What is the hybrid side of a coticule?
12-05-2010, 04:29 PM
life2short1971

The more strokes I do with a razor the worse it gets. It starts out almost non existant and by 50or 75 strokes its pretty intense.
12-05-2010, 04:33 PM
life2short1971

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The hybrid side is the opposite of the yellow side. It would be bbw on a normal Coti.
12-05-2010, 04:37 PM
holli4pirating

So is the "hybrid side" a generic term for the side opposide the coticule, or does it imply that it is a mixture of BBW and coticule (which is what that photo looks like to me). Or is it something else?
12-05-2010, 05:23 PM
richmondesi

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Originally Posted by holli4pirating

So is the "hybrid side" a generic term for the side opposide the coticule, or does it imply that it is a mixture of BBW and coticule (which is what that photo looks like to me). Or is it something else?

That terminology is specific to the marbled side of a les latnueses strata coticule because it's not entirely clear what it is. It appears to be a hybrid between BBW and coticule, thus, it's referred to as the hybrid side.
12-05-2010, 05:32 PM
JimmyHAD

I cannot remember who posted it, or in which thread, but there are some photos of the coticule veins running more or less vertically through the strata, and you can see the different colors, besides the blue, of the strata that the yellow coticule, in that particular vein, run through. So it isn't just yellow next to bbw 100% of the time and .... waste not want not. :)
12-05-2010, 06:35 PM
gary haywood

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Originally Posted by life2short1971

The hybrid side is the opposite of the yellow side. It would be bbw on a normal Coti.

have you tryed lapping it with some wet and dry paper. mine was realy resistant but seems ok now just a little resistants but not much.
12-05-2010, 06:53 PM
life2short1971

Gary I have lapped mine several times for quite a while at each sitting.I hate to rough it up. It gets smooth as glass and I can see reflections off of it in the light.I would like to use a lubricant maybe but I am afraid it will seep in through the sides and cause harm over time.
12-05-2010, 07:03 PM
gary haywood

my hone was real sticky for some reason now its no wear near like that. may be just using slurry stone will help. should be ok with lubricant these stones arn't porus . just keep working it with an old razor get some slurry and just do loads of laps back and forth try and bed it in a little . is it grabbing in certain spots thats how mine was real grabby and jumpy.
12-05-2010, 07:21 PM
life2short1971

Thanks Gary. My stone is smooth as glass. I can hold it up to my monitor and read the screen off of it. I think I'll try some lather and see how that goes. Thank you.
12-05-2010, 07:29 PM
gary haywood

mine is like marbel i no what you mean.
may be use yellow side and finish on hybrid with some lather,
12-05-2010, 08:07 PM
life2short1971

Yes I think I will. Now to decide on what type. The "yellow" side is very fast with with slurry or water alone and is also an excellent finisher.Just to stay in tune with the OP I used to come off of a Naniwa 1000 straight to a coti but I was never quite happy so I recently purchased the Naniwa 3/8 ss combo and it made it much easier for me to obtain nice edges and quicker too. I am highly considering getting the 12k but continuing to use a coti as the final finisher.