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i keep forgetting i have all this stuff, i have an ender's oak leaf barber hone, a pike barber hone, and a swaty. i did notice i was getting gray water on the 8k, so i'm going to work on that aspect of this. i'm comparing my honing efforts to a red point 917 and a boker king cutter that dylan honed for me last november. i unfortunately dropped the 917, superglued a crack in the scale, but the other night it completely fell apart while i was shaving with it. nice blade in search of new scales now.
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Sorry to hear about the Redpoint, those are some great shavers.