Barber hone experiment

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01-03-2012, 02:45 AM
nicknbleeding

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Barber hone experiment

Since B-HAD hit me in Dec i have a variety of grits. I deciede i wanted to try to hone a razor full from bevel to shave ready on the Barber hones. I started in setting the bevel but the razor i picked was in such bad shape i had to use my Chosera. Even on the Chosera it took alot of work. So after i set the bevel on my 1K i went on to the BH. Water only. Started with Aloxite with was laped 600 on the front and 1k on the back. I did circles then x patern on the front and the same on the back. I did this same routine for the following stones. Perfection then a fine Axloite. On the last hone is a Swaty. VERY smooth and hard. I just did x paterns. The 10 passes on Crox.

I was very impressed. Buttery edge. Smooth shave. Only a tiny bit of irritation on my Jaw line on one side. This happend sometime for me because of the growth patern on that side.

Oh this is also my 2nd time using BH. So i have some learning to do on these stones. I have been honing for about 1 1/2 years on Nortons, Reciently on Nanwas. Usualy finishing on C12k or Shapton 16k.
01-04-2012, 08:10 AM
bulldog

Interesting. Glad it worked out well fir you. I don't have thst kind of patients.
01-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Hirlau

You have 4 nice barber hones there. Looking forward to seeing which brand BH you like best.
01-04-2012, 01:02 PM
ScottGoodman

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Originally Posted by Hirlau

You have 4 nice barber hones there. Looking forward to seeing which brand BH you like best.

I'm with you here, would love to hear you input on which hone is more aggressive, smoother, and so on...
01-04-2012, 03:37 PM
nicknbleeding

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Originally Posted by shooter74743

I'm with you here, would love to hear you input on which hone is more aggressive, smoother, and so on...

Thanks guys. In the picture from left to right is the order. Left most agressive Axolite. 3rd one is an Axolite also but much finer. The last swaty is so hard water does not even stay on the stone long enough for me to put the blade on it. I will be rehoning it again this time with lather and counting the passes.
01-04-2012, 03:48 PM
Theseus

Now you need to experiment with different slurry stones on the barber hones. You can do a nice one stone hone with a coticule slurry stone and a Swaty.
01-04-2012, 06:12 PM
EucrisBoy

What Aloxite #'s are these?

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Originally Posted by nicknbleeding

Since B-HAD hit me in Dec i have a variety of grits. I deciede i wanted to try to hone a razor full from bevel to shave ready on the Barber hones. I started in setting the bevel but the razor i picked was in such bad shape i had to use my Chosera. Even on the Chosera it took alot of work. So after i set the bevel on my 1K i went on to the BH. Water only. Started with Aloxite with was laped 600 on the front and 1k on the back. I did circles then x patern on the front and the same on the back. I did this same routine for the following stones. Perfection then a fine Axloite. On the last hone is a Swaty. VERY smooth and hard. I just did x paterns. The 10 passes on Crox.

I was very impressed. Buttery edge. Smooth shave. Only a tiny bit of irritation on my Jaw line on one side. This happend sometime for me because of the growth patern on that side.

Oh this is also my 2nd time using BH. So i have some learning to do on these stones. I have been honing for about 1 1/2 years on Nortons, Reciently on Nanwas. Usualy finishing on C12k or Shapton 16k.
01-04-2012, 10:40 PM
nicknbleeding

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Originally Posted by Theseus

Now you need to experiment with different slurry stones on the barber hones. You can do a nice one stone hone with a coticule slurry stone and a Swaty.

That is a great idea. I donthave a coti right now. How about a c12k?
01-04-2012, 10:45 PM
Theseus

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Originally Posted by nicknbleeding

That is a great idea. I donthave a coti right now. How about a c12k?

I haven't tried a c12k slurry stone yet. May have to try it soon. I've used the coti, a King, a bbw and a thuri slurry stone on my Swaty. All worked well but the coti worked especially well.
01-04-2012, 10:49 PM
nicknbleeding

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Originally Posted by EucrisBoy

What Aloxite #'s are these?

I will have to check.i know the one on the left was sold as a 200.
01-04-2012, 10:51 PM
nicknbleeding

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Originally Posted by Theseus

I haven't tried a c12k slurry stone yet. May have to try it soon. I've used the coti, a King, a bbw and a thuri slurry stone on my Swaty. All worked well but the coti worked especially well.

Cool. I will have to try that. I have used my naguras on my C12K with great results.
01-09-2012, 12:52 AM
nicknbleeding

Well i rehoned the razor again. Using lather. This time i did not go all the way to the course hone"Axolite". I started with the Perfection circles 3 passes up and down the hone folowed by 20x strokes. I did this on the from and back of the hone. I repeated this on the Axolite finer hone. Same with the Swaty. 10 passes on Crox. Much better than the last test. Very sharp smooth shave. Im really impressed with the outcome. No irritation.
01-12-2012, 05:29 PM
Disburden

Barber's hones are wonderful. I really don't know why more of us here don't use them as our touch up hones. I guess they're just so simple to use and only take 5 strokes to touch up a razor that they aren't as mysterious or pleasurable to use like Coticules, Jnats and Eschers are...
01-12-2012, 05:44 PM
Deerhunter1995

all i own is a barbers hone and for touch ups i cant see me ever gettign anything else there as simple as can be and they dont cost alot to get one.
01-15-2012, 01:46 AM
mcgyver74

I'm confused, you honed a razor from bevel to SR with a Barbers hone? I thought BH's were only for touch ups of an already sharp razor?? *confused*
01-15-2012, 01:48 AM
nun2sharp

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Originally Posted by mcgyver74

I'm confused, you honed a razor from bevel to SR with a Barbers hone? I thought BH's were only for touch ups of an already sharp razor?? *confused*

He put a hell of a lot of work into that, if thats what he did.
01-15-2012, 02:05 AM
Theseus

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Originally Posted by mcgyver74

I'm confused, you honed a razor from bevel to SR with a Barbers hone? I thought BH's were only for touch ups of an already sharp razor?? *confused*

Barber hones are designed for quick touch ups. That being said, with a little tenacity, you can do quite a bit with them. I've honed on them using different slurry stones. I also sat down one day with a completely dull razor and my Pike Swaty and dry honed while watching a baseball game. By around the eighth inning it was shaving sharp.:)
01-15-2012, 02:14 AM
nicknbleeding

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Originally Posted by mcgyver74

I'm confused, you honed a razor from bevel to SR with a Barbers hone? I thought BH's were only for touch ups of an already sharp razor?? *confused*

My intent was to do that. Sadly i picked a razor that had an edge in really tough shape. I will pick a better one next time. The first picture, The axolite on the end is course enough to set a bevel. I have found a variety of grits in Barber hones. Also the lower grit ones were lapped on 600 grit on the front and 1k on the back. I found that this really did help in honing. Next time i will use oil instead of lather.
01-15-2012, 02:54 AM
niftyshaving

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Originally Posted by mcgyver74

I'm confused, you honed a razor from bevel to SR with a Barbers hone? I thought BH's were only for touch ups of an already sharp razor?? *confused*

Yes touch ups but note that the classic solution is five hone strokes and no more.

Depending on the barber hone they can prove to be very smooth and fine or
mostly smooth and fine. One of the reasons to stop at five is to avoid building
up a nasty burr. The "Axolite" type of barber hones can be very different from
the brown hard fired clay hones.

Yes, they are underused and under appreciated. Combined with modern
pasted strops (1 micron and sub micron sprays) a lot of good shaves
are possible.