The C-Nat-athon

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Originally Posted by Martin103

Oh ok maybe you should tried a different aproach since your method with this hone is not working and you would probably benefit from working with slurry!!

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Oh, I've tried slurry on a scratched/clouded surface, slurry on a smooth surface, adding soap to the mix, using slurry from coticules, from J-nats, chromium oxide ... you name it, I've tried it! I just get the best results with this particular stone using plain water on a glassy surface, that's all. Works great! Whatever else the slurry might add I think I'm accomplishing with other stones. For anybody who's got a PHIG, I do recommend at least trying it out with plain water after lapping it up to 2000 grit automotive sandpaper. Try to get it so glossy that you can clearly see a light bulb reflected in the dry surface. Otherwise, hey - if you like using it with slurry, more power to ya!

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Originally Posted by Nphocus

I believe that stones work better when they are smoother. I think it lends to the hardness and provides a better finished product... if you think about it, lapping a stone to a high finish provides a much more consistent mirror-like surface... the same type of mirror-like surface that you are trying to impart to the edge of your razor.

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I dont see it that way, if you make your stone super smooth i think you loose on it ability to actually scratch or smooth the razors edge, your actually removing its honing abilities.

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Originally Posted by northpaw

Oh, I've tried slurry on a scratched/clouded surface, slurry on a smooth surface, adding soap to the mix, using slurry from coticules, from J-nats, chromium oxide ... you name it, I've tried it! I just get the best results with this particular stone using plain water on a glassy surface, that's all. Works great! Whatever else the slurry might add I think I'm accomplishing with other stones. For anybody who's got a PHIG, I do recommend at least trying it out with plain water after lapping it up to 2000 grit automotive sandpaper. Try to get it so glossy that you can clearly see a light bulb reflected in the dry surface. Otherwise, hey - if you like using it with slurry, more power to ya!

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Yeah I get the best edge on my C-nat with a polished smooth surface also, but ending with a thin slurry. Remember these are natural stones so they will be different, but that's what this thread is for guys so get honing and record your results! :)

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Originally Posted by Martin103

How about using a dmt 325 to create a slurry on the phig works good for me!!

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I have done that for ages, but I've never gotten a good edge off the PHIG either. This time I lapped it with the 325, then went to a 1k stone and lapped it, then to the 4k, the 8k etc. I got a really nice finish on it right now, and don't want such a low grit plate against it until it really needs lapping again.

I've got to try the edge for slurry this next time, hoping it doesn't scratch the surface again, since I have it so clean and smooth right now!!

Lata!!

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PHIG The Peoples Hone of Indeterminate Grit, can't that be said for any natural stone? I don't know PHIG just sounds funny to me, reminds me of a cookie. lol

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Originally Posted by xMackx

PHIG The Peoples Hone of Indeterminate Grit, can't that be said for any natural stone? I don't know PHIG just sounds funny to me, reminds me of a cookie. lol

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I'm okay with them being called any of the names we've given them. I've used the terms C-nat and C12k quite a bit. But once I read that someone thought that the term PHIG was discriminatory, I've used nothing but PHIG to describe them. Just the kind of ass I am.:)

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Originally Posted by xMackx

PHIG The Peoples Hone of Indeterminate Grit, can't that be said for any natural stone? I don't know PHIG just sounds funny to me, reminds me of a cookie. lol

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Of course with naturals, the name was brought up by people on this forum that are jealous about this inexpensive hone when you can get a similiar results to a very expensive arsenal!!

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Originally Posted by U2Bono269

I've got one but I have no idea how to use it...so I'm very happy to read what everyone has to say.

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YES! I don't have one and also have no idea how to use it...so I am..uh..happy to read about what everyone has to say too. Are not they all a bit different, though? How can you standardize results? I understand they are great hones! The techniques used should be interesting as well......has been so far!

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Originally Posted by sharptonn

YES! I don't have one and also have no idea how to use it...so I am..uh..happy to read about what everyone has to say too. Are not they all a bit different, though? How can you standardize results? I understand they are great hones! The techniques used should be interesting as well.

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The only way to standardize the results is to document everything about your stones characteristics and just maybe if we get enough people to do so someone may identify there stone has similar characteristics as one of us, and with collective knowledge with what works best for you may help someone down the road. Other than that there is no true way to standardize the results, but with enough knowledge I believe it will be helpful. Hopefully

It definitely will be helpful, IMO