Bitten by a Noonan

I picked up a Noonan, 6/8, full hollow razor that had a small frown. I was able to hone out the frown within a short time but have had one heck of a time getting a bevel set. I ran it over a Chosera 1K with and without slurry for what seemed like forever. I'm talking several hours over several days. Would not cut arm hair, but actually pushed the hair down.
Soaked the Norton 1K and began to try to get the bevel on that hone. After several passes with small circles and x-strokes I went to put the razor down and it bit me!! Nice little nick on my thumb that bled like heck. No big deal, a band-aide and back to the hone. Another 30 minutes and arm hair test; FAILED.

I cannot fathom what I am doing wrong. Could a bevel take this long to set after working out the frown? By the way, I used as Norton 220 to remove the frown.

I have to set the bevel on this one, it is now a matter of pride!!! I don't like being bitten!

I would ask how much pressure are you using to set the bevel? Are you using just the weight of the blade because a 1k should not take 7 hours, and the bevel should be at least partially set to cut you.

I had a similar problem not too long ago with a Robeson. Turned out to be a wire edge.

What makes you think that you removed the frown completely? What tests did you use?


. charles

I've thought I had finished removing frowns and found otherwise on the higher grit stones. Maybe paint w/ magic marker & take a couple no pressure strokes to confirm your bevel is uniform.

I also have had numerous blades that seemed to take forever on the chosera. I'm wondering if it glazes over after a while & needs fresh slurry to keep it cutting quickly.

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Originally Posted by xMackx

I would ask how much pressure are you using to set the bevel? Are you using just the weight of the blade because a 1k should not take 7 hours, and the bevel should be at least partially set to cut you.

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I've done with pressure and without. Still no arm hair cutting. A very famous razor maker who I spoke to last week told me that a razor will cut meat long before it will provide a good shave. Least we know it will cut meat....LOL

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Originally Posted by Theseus

I had a similar problem not too long ago with a Robeson. Turned out to be a wire edge.

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No wire edge, I checked the edge.

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Originally Posted by cpcohen1945

What makes you think that you removed the frown completely? What tests did you use?


. charles

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Flat piece of tempered 3/4 glass. No light travels under the edge.

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Originally Posted by pinklather

I've thought I had finished removing frowns and found otherwise on the higher grit stones. Maybe paint w/ magic marker & take a couple no pressure strokes to confirm your bevel is uniform.

I also have had numerous blades that seemed to take forever on the chosera. I'm wondering if it glazes over after a while & needs fresh slurry to keep it cutting quickly.

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Use the marker. The edge becomes clean after 3-4 passes on either stone.

Back to working on the edge this morning.

My experience with the chosera is that the edge is set in just a few minutes. Perhaps it is your arm hair test? If the tpt is passed and the magnifier does not reveal anything, perhaps progress up and test shave it?

Best of luck.

Did you remove the frown using regular honing or did you bread knife it?

I used a 220 and just honed it out. Weird.....if I don't get it soon I'll send it out.

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Originally Posted by str8fencer

My experience with the chosera is that the edge is set in just a few minutes. Perhaps it is your arm hair test? If the tpt is passed and the magnifier does not reveal anything, perhaps progress up and test shave it?

Best of luck.

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Those were my thoughts today also. I took a razor that Max sent me this week which I'm yet to shave with. It cut hair easily. I'll take your advice and try a shave test anyway.