Suggestions on a pocket knife?

I had one like that many years ago. I was drawn to the size with the huge beefy blade surface. I found it very limited in use. I found that most light duty daily use involves some sort of tip work and this blade doesn't really have one. To do fine work with the tip I would end up holding it by pinching it between my thumb and index finger and didn't have any leverage. For boxes and the likes your knuckles are too close to the work. Opening envelopes doesn't work. I was always intrigued with the configuration but it never got used much.

I have both of the knives you ordered - a cpms30v Spyderco Native and the Kershaw Leek with a sandvick13c27/CPM-D2 blade. Here's a few things to note:

The Native is a great knife, but don't take the edge down to 15 degrees per side. They get chippy really easily. I've got mine at 18 degrees per side right now, and it's doing great.
I bought my native s30v from walmart.... 39.88 or something like that.

The Native fits in the hand really well for a smaller knife, and it's a great EDC.

The Leek is great too. Can get slippery sometimes, but that doens't bother me. I've yet to convert mine to tip-up carry, but it's on my to do list. The leek can be opened and shut easily with one hand - a lot easier than the Native. I've started favoring the Leek much more, but if I felt like I'd have to do more robust work, I'd take the native. The point on the Leek seems that it could be broken easier.

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Originally Posted by Ben325e

I have both of the knives you ordered - a cpms30v Spyderco Native and the Kershaw Leek with a sandvick13c27/CPM-D2 blade. Here's a few things to note:

The Native is a great knife, but don't take the edge down to 15 degrees per side. They get chippy really easily. I've got mine at 18 degrees per side right now, and it's doing great.
I bought my native s30v from walmart.... 39.88 or something like that.

The Native fits in the hand really well for a smaller knife, and it's a great EDC.

The Leek is great too. Can get slippery sometimes, but that doens't bother me. I've yet to convert mine to tip-up carry, but it's on my to do list. The leek can be opened and shut easily with one hand - a lot easier than the Native. I've started favoring the Leek much more, but if I felt like I'd have to do more robust work, I'd take the native. The point on the Leek seems that it could be broken easier.

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That's exactly what I was thinking. Carry the leek when chances of using it are low and probably light duty. To the office, etc. Likely to be more point work. And I expect it ot be a good bit thinner in the pocket and less likey to attract attention. Carry the Native around the house/yard on weekends, for projects, trips, etc. Medium use much more likely.

Walmart doesn't carry them any more . I checked. Would only be about $5 cheaper when you add tax. I did consider the Native4 with the carbon fiber handles. It's thinner by about 2 mm and I was thinking it might work as the EDC for all occassions. But the handles are slick, VG10, no Boyle indent... So with the Native FRN and the Leek I'd have 2 specialized knives rather than 1 compromise and at 1/3 less price.

18*. What does it come out of the box with? And what sharpening solution do you recommend?

Spyderco, Benchmade, Sebenza, Victorinox, you cant go wrong with any of them.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z..._2007/sub3.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jason01

Spyderco, Benchmade, Sebenza, Victorinox, you cant go wrong with any of them.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z..._2007/sub3.jpg

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Hey Jason,

You live in England, the UK? If so, how is it that you own the first three knives?

Brad

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Originally Posted by icedog

Hey Jason,

You live in England, the UK? If so, how is it that you own the first three knives?

Brad

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Hi Brad

We have a pretty hard time of it over here with anything knife related at present and the media are having a frenzy on the whole issue, I imagine this can create a skewed impression of the actual facts for anyone looking in from overseas.

Lock knives are not illegal in England, though if you read the UK press you might find that hard to believe :rolleyes:, to summarise our laws relating to knives very briefly

You can carry a sub 3" non locking slipjoint anytime
Lock knives, fixed blades and slipjoints over 3" are to all intents and purposes classed as the same thing, they are perfectly legal to carry "with good reason", the onus is on the user to justify "good reason" but for example if I were out on the hill hunting dear I would have justifiable good reason to carry a fixed blade or a lock knife.

There is no restriction at all on owning the above with a couple of exceptions eg auto's which are banned, assisted openers are available to buy over here but in the absence of any test case they fall into a grey area as they do in some US states.

So its not quite as bad as you may think, yet! As I said that is only a summary of the main points, I can link you to more detail if you like?

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Originally Posted by icedog

Hey Jason,

You live in England, the UK? If so, how is it that you own the first three knives?

Brad

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They are good for when the kids are running on his lawn.

I kid I kid. But yeah I reckon they would have certain knife laws in England. Overhere I think they need to be foldable, no longer than 7cm (blade length) and non-lockable.

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Originally Posted by Jason01

Hi Brad

We have a pretty hard time of it over here with anything knife related at present and the media are having a frenzy on the whole issue, I imagine this can create a skewed impression of the actual facts for anyone looking in from overseas.

Lock knives are not illegal in England, though if you read the UK press you might find that hard to believe :rolleyes:, to summarise our laws relating to knives very briefly

You can carry a sub 3" non locking slipjoint anytime
Lock knives, fixed blades and slipjoints over 3" are to all intents and purposes classed as the same thing, they are perfectly legal to carry "with good reason", the onus is on the user to justify "good reason" but for example if I were out on the hill hunting dear I would have justifiable good reason to carry a fixed blade or a lock knife.

There is no restriction at all on owning the above with a couple of exceptions eg auto's which are banned, assisted openers are available to buy over here but in the absence of any test case they fall into a grey area as they do in some US states.

So its not quite as bad as you may think, yet! As I said that is only a summary of the main points, I can link you to more detail if you like?

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Jason,

Thanks. I don't want to hijack this thread. Have you chimed in here: http://straightrazorpalace.com/conve...knife-ban.html ?

Brad

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Originally Posted by icedog

Jason,

Thanks. I don't want to hijack this thread. Have you chimed in here: http://straightrazorpalace.com/conve...knife-ban.html ?

Brad

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Brad, no I havent even read it, I find the whole subject quite frustrating, theres so much misinformation and paranoia about its unbelieveable, its been discussed ad infinitum on the knife forums for years now. Im not an expert on the subject I just like to collect and sometimes make a few knives so I need to be aware of the law as it stands and while general knife threads always catch my attention I usually avoid the knife law type threads. Id heard about the ebay ban but I havent checked out the details of it yet.

Most non knife people in the UK, are throughly misinformed about the law relating to knives, thanks to the press.

Sorry if that sounds like I have my head in the sand but thats how I feel about it, we few knife collectors in the UK are standing against an inevitable tide.

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Originally Posted by Ben325e

I have both of the knives you ordered - a cpms30v Spyderco Native and the Kershaw Leek with a sandvick13c27/CPM-D2 blade. Here's a few things to note:

The Native is a great knife, but don't take the edge down to 15 degrees per side. They get chippy really easily. I've got mine at 18 degrees per side right now, and it's doing great.
I bought my native s30v from walmart.... 39.88 or something like that.

The Native fits in the hand really well for a smaller knife, and it's a great EDC.

The Leek is great too. Can get slippery sometimes, but that doens't bother me. I've yet to convert mine to tip-up carry, but it's on my to do list. The leek can be opened and shut easily with one hand - a lot easier than the Native. I've started favoring the Leek much more, but if I felt like I'd have to do more robust work, I'd take the native. The point on the Leek seems that it could be broken easier.

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The leek is a nice knife, but I really like this knife. KAI USA : Kershaw Product Details that is my EDC unless I"m going to be in a situation where it might make people unconfortable whipping that out. so I go with a chive.

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Originally Posted by Jason01

Hi Brad

We have a pretty hard time of it over here with anything knife related at present and the media are having a frenzy on the whole issue, I imagine this can create a skewed impression of the actual facts for anyone looking in from overseas.

Lock knives are not illegal in England, though if you read the UK press you might find that hard to believe :rolleyes:, to summarise our laws relating to knives very briefly

You can carry a sub 3" non locking slipjoint anytime
Lock knives, fixed blades and slipjoints over 3" are to all intents and purposes classed as the same thing, they are perfectly legal to carry "with good reason", the onus is on the user to justify "good reason" but for example if I were out on the hill hunting dear I would have justifiable good reason to carry a fixed blade or a lock knife.

There is no restriction at all on owning the above with a couple of exceptions eg auto's which are banned, assisted openers are available to buy over here but in the absence of any test case they fall into a grey area as they do in some US states.

So its not quite as bad as you may think, yet! As I said that is only a summary of the main points, I can link you to more detail if you like?

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I had no idea the brits didn't like knives either.