That 1700's Show

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Originally Posted by lohar

I recently found a very old razor. we can easily date it from the early 1700s, but I had a doubt about the country of origin. I think French because the main punch is already known (rosary), and present on the table of insculpation cutlers of the city of Chatellerault dating late 1600. But there is a second punch, smaller, seeming to represent two crossed swords. This is unusual in the tradition of French cutlery, because there should have been the name of the city of manufacture rather than a symbol (which could still represent a coat of arms). Then I saw the coat of arms of the first page of the Sheffield directory of Gales and Martin and I wonder now if this razor would not be of English origin. I therefore ask the opinion of the experts
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That is a very odd one.

I don't think it's English, but it also doesn't look very French to my eye. Maybe Belgian?

it was found in French Catalonia. Can also be Spanish; hard to say without documentation to compare

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Originally Posted by lohar

it was found in French Catalonia. Can also be Spanish; hard to say without documentation to compare

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Ah, yes!

Sadly, I know absolutely nothing about Spanish razors from the 18th century, so I can't offer much help there. :(

Moreover I found a similarity with another razor from the collection of a member of SRP (robertoreigosmendez) who lives in the province of Gallicia in Spain. It may be a track

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this square punch is of the same kind

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An interesting punch: it is usually believed that the "GR crown" punch was used for King George IV (1820-30) and then in the XX ° for King George V.
However, these razors are typically dated between 1760 and 1780 for the shape of the blades (dip-at-toe) and characteristics of the handles (turtle and typical silver tips) in the range of luxury products. So, GR is also for George III.

The "LONDON" punch is used by Samuel Linley (son of William Linley cutler. Freedom granted in 1772) and by John Linley (son of William Linley cutler. Freedom granted in 1770) (Gales & Martin 1787 directory)

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Originally Posted by altus

An interesting punch: it is usually believed that the "GR crown" punch was used for King George IV (1820-30) and then in the XX ° for King George V.
However, these razors are typically dated between 1760 and 1780 for the shape of the blades (dip-at-toe) and characteristics of the handles (turtle and typical silver tips) in the range of luxury products. So, GR is also for George III.

The "LONDON" punch is used by Samuel Linley (son of William Linley cutler. Freedom granted in 1772) and by John Linley (son of William Linley cutler. Freedom granted in 1770) (Gales & Martin 1787 directory)

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Excellent find!

I knew from Smith's Key that the crown & GR mark was used for George III, but had never seen a verifiable razor example! Superb!

Probably not 1700's, but looks pretty old. Maybe one of you guys has seen one of these before. I'm hoping to come across an old stubtail for a project. Even if it needed new scales. This one is just too pitted. I sanded some of the pitting out of the toe, but I'm not sure if it would even hone well since the pitting is so deep into the blade.

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Originally Posted by JP5

Probably not 1700's, but looks pretty old. Maybe one of you guys has seen one of these before. I'm hoping to come across an old stubtail for a project. Even if it needed new scales. This one is just too pitted. I sanded some of the pitting out of the toe, but I'm not sure if it would even hone well since the pitting is so deep into the blade.

G (crown) R
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CAST STEEL
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Looks like a mid 1820's razor.

Can you get a closeup of the tang stamp?

Of course. Meant to do that yesterday.

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Seen better days.