Please help me identifying my Double Notch Erl Sheffield Wedge

Hi Everyone :-)
Today i got an old Wedge Blade with Double Notches Tang, it seems very old but after a semi-good restauration of the fellow from who i got the Blade its impossible to identify a Makers Mark couse the Erl was sanded too much.
I saw somewhere a similar Tang but couldnt remember where it was, its a markable Design cause the Erl and the Tang are straight in one line, without a swing, can anyone help me?

Dont know why anyone drilled a second Erl Hole, the original Hole where i pined it showed the typical "nailed like" form like some older Sheffield Razor i had.

Rescaled it with some old Bone Scales, i think they match good together but its not the end of the line, i consider to change the Pins for Cat-Eye Pins.

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Unfortunately, without the tang stamps there's no way to know. Sheffield producers who made razors in that shape that I can think of off the top of my head are:

Wade & Butcher
Joseph Rodgers & Sons
Joseph Elliot
Charles Pickslay
William Greaves & Sons

... There are probably others.

That there are two pivot holes is very strange. I don't know what to make of that. The visible one doesn't look original to me. Older Sheffield razors had their pivots struck out with a nail while the steel was hot, so they're rarely so perfect.

But the pitting around it also makes me thing that was the pivot 'in use' for a long time. Very, very odd.

Thank you Voidmaster :-)
That makes it a bit easier for me to search!

Yes, the second Pivot Hole is much too perfect to be Original, i think it was drilled, as i said, the Original Hole is Nailed (if i repin it i make a pic of it).

Without even a partial stamp there's no way to be sure. That was basically who sold the razor, not who made it (despite all those 'manufactured by' markings). The reality is that workers in one factory commonly made razors stamped with the name of a completely different manufacturer. Somewhat like the old Solingen system, except that in Sheffield the workers rented space in a factory rather than kitted out their homes with workshops.

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Originally Posted by Voidmonster

Unfortunately, without the tang stamps there's no way to know. Sheffield producers who made razors in that shape that I can think of off the top of my head are:

Wade & Butcher
Joseph Rodgers & Sons
Joseph Elliot
Charles Pickslay
William Greaves & Sons

... There are probably others.

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Hamilton & Savage
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...04-front-c.jpg

Savage & Son
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...13-front-c.jpg

(don't mean to hijack the thread, and I apologize for the "unkempt" appearance of these blades)

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Originally Posted by JBHoren

Hamilton & Savage
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...04-front-c.jpg

Savage & Son
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...13-front-c.jpg

(don't mean to hijack the thread, and I apologize for the "unkempt" appearance of these blades)

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I don't think I'd ever seen a Hamilton & Savage razor before!

They've got a start date of 1841 and I'd guess that one was made much closer to the start than the finish in the 1860's.

Interestingly, the Savage of Hamilton & Savage is no relation to George Savage of Savage & Son.

George was born in Sheffield in the late 1700's, and James Savage of Hamilton & Savage was from Liverpool, and in fact ran his half of the partnership there.