I see razor services include sterilization. How is that done?
thanks
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I see razor services include sterilization. How is that done?
thanks
I use a 15 minute soak in Barbicide.
Or Marvicide; same but cheaper!. Both are available at Sally Beauty supplies for non-licensed persons. Good source for other restorations stuff like nail buffs and also some shave products.
~Richard
wipe with alcohol works as well
I use alcohol but want to get some of that blue stuff someday. What ever you use keep it off the scales.
Yeah I want a jar of the blue stuff for nostalgia's sake.
Yeah and got to have the jar too :<0)Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyalCake
Actually, I use a plastic graduated cylinder in order to reduce the volume I have to make up each time. Using the really cool but really large Barbicide jar would use up a lot more Barbicide.
Another alternative is the use of ClipperCide spray that I use on my barber clippers. It's basically Barbicide in a spray form. Works very well and is more controllable. I use it on any straights that I hone and send out.
Frank
I don't bother with it. I might rinse the razor under water. I've had most diseases already, and a new one might be a nice experience.
I only soak the steel only of new razors or after honing in barbicide for the recommended 10-15 minutes
10 minutes and dont forget its in there or depending on what the scales are made of you may have a problem. I think you need to sterilize the whole blade , scales included.
The barbicide can stain most scale materials that's why I don't soak them as well, but I do clean the whole blade and scales before they go in the blue juice
Just a note on Barbicide
For Barber Shops in:
the State of Minnesota requires Barbicide solution to be made fresh every day.
I don't know how the State mandated longevity of Barbicide translates to home/private use but be aware the germicidal properties do not last long. If you are sterilizing a customer's blade, I would make up a fresh solution.
Dave
On my own razors I never bother with any more than rinsing them under hot water (about 75 degrees Centigrade)
Now, for the razors I hone for others I will soak the blade in Barbicide for 10 minutes before wiping the whole thing down with alcohol.
After that I add thin layer of camellia oil.
For my own razors I just use antibacterial handwash and hot water, cleans lather off easily too. Job done
I never bother sterilizing my own razors. I only sterilize what I have honed and shave tested for others. I'm not aware of any particular cooties I might have but it is an assurance for the person receiving the razor. That said, ultimately it is the responsibility of the razor owner to protect himself from whatever the seller or honer may have left on the blade.
BTW, I DO make a fresh solution of Barbicide each day that I use it and it is for that reason that I use a small volume cylinder that just accommodates a couple of razors at a time.
From the Arizona Barber's regulations:
2. Sanitize any barbering implement intended for multiple use according to the following procedure:
a. For any immersible barbering implement other than a scissors or razor, a licensee shall:
i. Remove all hair or debris,
ii. Wash with soap and water,
iii. Completely immerse in a disinfectant solution that is approved and used as prescribed under R4-5-105,
iv. Rinse with water,
v. Dry completely, and
vi. Store in a dry sanitizer;
b. For a scissors or a razor, a licensee may follow the procedure under subsection (A)(2)(a) or wipe the implement with a cloth bearing a disinfectant solution approved and used as prescribed under R4-5-105. The licensee shall store an implement sanitized under this subsection in a dry sanitizer
R4-5-105. Disinfectants: Approval; Usage Guidelines
A. Approval. For barbering purposes, the Board approves any disinfectant, sanitation, or sterilization product or method registered by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for use as:
1. A virucide,
2. A bactericide, or
3. A fungicide.
B. Usage guidelines. Unless a product manufacturer's instructions specify otherwise, a licensee shall disinfect barbering implements according to the following guidelines:
1. Liquid sanitizing. A licensee shall use one or more of the following:
Solution type
Strength
Minimum immersion time
Quaternary Ammonium Compounds "Quats" - liquid or dissolved tablet
1:1000
20 minutes
Formalin
25%
10 minutes
Formalin
10%
20 minutes
Alcohol*: Ethyl, Grain, or Isopropanol
70%
10 minutes
Sodium Hypochlorite
10%
10 minutes
* Note: for sharp cutting implement or electrode sanitization
2. Dry sanitizing. A licensee shall use either of the following:
a. A fumigant prepared as a mixture of:
i. One tablespoon of borax; and
ii. One tablespoon, one premanufactured tablet, or one container of formalin; or
b. An ultraviolet-ray electric sanitizer manufactured specifically for sanitation purposes.
If you are not cutting hair or shaving for money, it has no bearing. You don't need a license to cut your own hair or to restore straight razors.Quote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
(yet).
Frank
It does have bearing. The point was that the disinfecting solution Barbicide does not last indefinitely and needs to be replaced regularly in order for it to be effective.
It doesn't need to be refilled daily. Barbicide concentrate will last for months as it is not necessary to replenish your Barbicide jar on a daily basis. So again, for the sake of this discussion, it has no bearing nor does a State law governing professional, licensed barbering. We're talking about personal usage here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
There's a big difference between daily and regularly.
Frank
If you have a reference that declares the duration of efficacy of the solution after it is diluted, I would appreciate knowing about it. Everything I have read about it in the past has indicated it must be replaced daily in order to be effective. Many disinfectants, such as bleach, quickly lose their effectiveness after dilution.
I stand corrected. From the Barbicide web page FAQ: "Barbicide® should be changed daily in all containers used to submerge combs, brushes, shears, implements—that is all tubs, glass or plastic jars. It should also be changed whenever contaminated or diluted incorrectly."Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Seems like a waste of money for the casual, private use of this product to me. I think that I will stick with Clippercide spray from now on.
Frank
I think the Barbicide Plus is a decent bargain as it is diluted 1:128.
True. But, because I don't sanitize restored razors daily I really cannot justify mixing up a batch for single use. Aerosol Clippercide would be better for the casual hobbyist/honer IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
Learn something new everyday.
Frank
How about putting the razor in the dishwasher.
Roger
That's why I use a graduated cylinder. I can completely submerge a blade using less than half a milliliter of the concentrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakebound
I suppose I'm the freak for using anti bacterial mouthwash....
I can get it in the £1 shop, the bottle is the perfect dunking size, and it's alcohol based so no problems with corrosion so far.
It will make waste of your scales. Tooooo HOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by k5MOW
There's a delightful irony in watching a guy with Henry David Thoreau as his icon discuss sterilizing razors. Thoreau's brother died of tetanus he received from a straight razor cut (wow, how nasty would that razor have to be) Thoreau was very close to his brother and the death absolutely crushed him. He decided to try to clear his head by spending some time in his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson's cabin on Walden Pond. The rest as they say is American Literary History.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
You are making this way too hard. Wipe down the blade with 70% or better alcohol per Arizona regulations...