I want to try a razor with this grind. I see the Genco Safege advertised this as a feature but I have not seen one at the right price yet. Does anyone know of other razors made with the bellied hollow gind so I can expand my search?
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I want to try a razor with this grind. I see the Genco Safege advertised this as a feature but I have not seen one at the right price yet. Does anyone know of other razors made with the bellied hollow gind so I can expand my search?
I believe the Hess 44 is bellied.
Bob
The larger Palmeras are bellied
And such sweet shavers too.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelfixed
The 'belly' is created as a razor is double ground, or ground with at least two different size wheels/stones. Most hollow grounds are made this way, I think. Some are more obvious than others. It stands out on some more than others. As looking at the end of the blade, it can be seen as a bulge up from the edge a bit. Also, you can lightly grip the spine with thumb and index finger and pull them down the blade toward the edge. It can be felt as a bump as you get toward the edge.
I have a Dubl Duck Wonderedge and I can feel a bulge but it is about midway up the blade on a 6/8. Seems to far up for a bellied hollow. My other hollow grinds which include a Wester, Geneva Pyramid, Boker Red Injun have no perceptible bulge.
I have a Thistle with a bellied hollow that is pretty sweet.
Just checked some of my razors again and there seem to be quite a few bellied razors among the hollow grounds. I have a feeling bellied razors are not uncommon but it is just that people don't notice it much.
Bob
Can you share make and model? I was hoping they are common but you can't tell from a picture on ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
For the most part there are no model numbers/names on most of these. Not all blades from a maker may be bellied hollows so saying a maker would not do much good either. If there is no end on toe shot of the blade you may be able to get a suspicion of a belly if the lighting on the flat blade is a certain way and you can see a shadowed line parallel to the bevel part way up the blade. One the newer full hollows it is really difficult to tell from a photo and at times even if you have it in hand because it is so subtle. On the older double hollow/bellied razors it is far more easier to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by john3126
Bob
Would this be considered 'bellied'? I've always wondered what the grind on this Griffon Carbo Magnetic was called..
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I couldn't get a pic of the end of the razor very well. Limited by the good ol' iPhone. It hollows down from the spine the kind of 'flattens out' at the edge. Good shaver regardless :)
Chris
That is a nice looking razor but it does not appear to be ground the same as any of the Griffon 60 XX Carbo Magnetics currently on the 'bay. Is this a 60 or is there diferent digit next to the 6?
Its stamped 60. I haven't seen one with this grind before either. I wish I could get rid of some of those scratches but I'm afraid to mess up the etch. I don't know why, but this razor has always managed to make all of my previous 'thinning the herd' cuts :)
Chris
Not an expert but I would think that is a bellied blade.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkbite111
Bob
That is just the trouble I was talking about with looking for model numbers/names, not all from the same manufacturer were ground the same way. Makes it difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by john3126
Bob
I see your point but any information is better than a shot in the dark. i am guessing there are more hollow ground razors without a belly than with.
George W. Korn took out a patent on the grind in 1902. Pat # 693,524
Some of the Little Valley razors are ground that way.
Cattaraugus below.
I have a Redt Dot and a Romuso with me that are obviously bellied. I have never payed that code of attention before. I had always presumed that all of the extra hollows were bellied. Apparently they are not. Hopefully you find what you are looking for at the price you want.
Almost all vintage full hollow razors are like this. So just pick any german or american razor from the 19th century - double check with the seller to be sure, but you really don't need to look hard.
Thanks to everyone for all the great pointers. I picked up a nice Cattaraugus bellied hollow yesterday.