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Hallo gents!
Sorry for being away so long... you know, the things that happen in life...
A friend of mine just found this old blade... I am sure I have already seen this symbol, but I just don't remember where or when... can somebody help?
Thanks a lot!
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Looks like a spur.
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Originally Posted by bouschie
Absolute spam but I just had to scratch an itch.
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I have read that after the Priestley research of the elements, the symbols were used as advertising of some fancy element alloyed into the steel.
And I have seen some similar symbols as trademarks.
So...nice old blade!!
~Richard
A lot of razors in this shape have been turning up lately.
The mark is pretty typical of very early (for razors!) cutler's marks.
Some examples from Sheffield in the 16th century:
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I've been digging really hard into research on these, but so far I haven't turned up much. I've found a pair of razors with blades in that style (odd spike-tang, hatchet-like blade, cutler's mark in the middle-top). They were made for a duke of Pomerania in the early 17th century.
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It's not a perfect match, but it is close enough that I suspect all of these razors were made in Northeastern Germany in the 16th-17th century. However, I'm still digging!
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An odd looking thing to be sure - wish there was a size reference as it doesn't even look much like a razor.
I have gone through the 1787 Sheffield Directory, but although there are a lot of marks like Zak posted, there isn't really anything like this one.
I have seen that mark before, though - almost sure of it. Smaller, and on a razor tang. It is most likely a symbol for a spur with a spiked roundel as noted above, and there are a lot of marks like it on early french razors, say late 1700s to early 1800s. If it was french the tang-like spike/tail seems a bit odd, as the razors from that time usually have no tail, but if it was a knife or some other form of edged implement that might explain it.
Maybe Martin would know better - he is pretty clued-up on these old continental marks.
Regards,
Neil
Wow - that Consigli mark - a stylized comet - is very, very close - well spotted! If only it had a curved tail you would have nailed it:Quote:
Originally Posted by WW243
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Regards,
Neil
Shucks, weren't nuthin, got this puter thing and just used the google to axe 'what the hell is that symbol?'Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil Miller
Peake, in Birmingham, UK, in 1807 used a "Spur" as their symbol,,,,:shrug:
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But those snooty silver smith types had marks that were pretty much exclusive to their trade.
Maybe he got tired of banging out forks & went to straights,,,,,,,:rofl2:
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Originally Posted by Hirlau
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Excellent John! A proper spur mark!
However, as Wullie says, those guys stuck pretty much to their own trades. Peake - or Meredith H. Peake to give his full name in all its glory, wasn't just any sort of plater, oh no! Platers then specialised - there were common platers, platers on steel, silver platers, electro-platers (after Faradays experiments), fancy-platers, platers in general, etc.
The early method involved sandwiching a block of silver on a block of copper and heating to fuse them, and then rolling them under pressure making a thin silver-clad sheet of metal. The process was invented by Thomas Boulsover in (of the Cutlers Company, 1743) and fell out of favour around 1840 when electro-plating took over.
Meredith Peake was what they called a 'close plater' - an ancient practice, highly skilled, that is now all but lost to us. This involved making sheets from german silver (silver coloured, but no silver content) and silver or nickel and cutting it around complex shapes. German silver and nickel silver were used because of the resemblence to the colour of silver and found great use in automobile and carriage lights (all chrome-plate, now). In fact, when the Indian Motorcycle company opened its Springfield plant, the only skilled labourer they got from Britain was a close-plater.
So, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely Peake had anything to do with the OPs blade - but: you never know!
Regards,
Neil
