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11-01-2014, 01:00 AM
1OldGI

Are You Serious!?

Interesting article about shaving: The Concerns of Shaving - New Orleans Magazine - June 2013 - New Orleans, LA

My comments:

1. $40 for a barber shop shave WITH A MACH 3!? Me and a lot of guys I know would gladly pay $40 to get that razor as far as possible from our faces.

2. 12 Dermatologists surveyed and 100% shave with modern cartridge razors, canned goo, and yes, even electric razors. And these guys are supposed to be experts? Pish says I, nay, I call shennanigans on the lot!

Article #2: http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...d5b_story.html

"Every time we add a blade, the comfort of the shave increases"- A Gillette paid researcher (just a bit of a bias there)

"We have no circumstantial evidence that multi blade razors cause ingrown hairs" The same clueless dolt quoted above (I'd see your zero circumstantial evidence and raise you a ton of real world testimonials that say likewise.)

Roughly translated this article says, "Hey, stop asking questions and just keep paying whatever we tell you to pay for this garbage. We've released the findings most beneficial to the bottom line of Gillette and they are beyond reproach"

Now maybe I'm getting old and crochety but the traditional gear DOES deliver a better shave, a wolverine does NOT make a great house pet and the Emperor is completely naked. Furthermore, I'm not a huge fan of someone pissing down my back and telling me it's raining!
11-01-2014, 01:03 AM
sharptonn

Obviously, they have NO idea! ;)
11-01-2014, 01:24 AM
10Pups

It's common sense. All of it. You just have to remember you are the 1% in this area. You hoard a mass wealth of razors and the knowledge and skills of a lost art. Although you flaunt it publicly the uninitiated have no clue about the true secret. When the time comes we will take over the world. maybe :<0)
11-01-2014, 01:43 AM
Gilligan

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Pups

It's common sense. All of it. You just have to remember you are the 1% in this area. You hoard a mass wealth of razors and the knowledge and skills of a lost art. Although you flaunt it publicly the uninitiated have no clue about the true secret. When the time comes we will take over the world. maybe :<0)

Indeed, one face at a time:)
11-01-2014, 02:40 AM
sharptonn

I would like to be Secretary of State. Or at least an adviser! :rofl2:
11-01-2014, 03:04 AM
Substance

I have found in life that common sense isn't all that common at times
11-01-2014, 03:09 AM
1OldGI

Secretary of Steak? I'll take mine chicken fried :rofl2: Not all that surprising that a world full of people too busy for a proper shave would generally be far too intellectually lazy for a bit of critical thinking. It's not that we're smarter than the 99% we're just less gullable and a simple look around the site will tell you that most of us have less than zero difficulty being individuals (even if the sheeple find us a bit odd for "risking our lives every time we shave"). Pretty good company, says I. We are indeed a group of people brought together by our individuality. I would say that's the irony. The fact that most folks think we're crazy is just a pleasant consequence :)
11-01-2014, 04:28 AM
Grazor

A good friend of mine who is quite dark skinned always suffered from ingrown hair and razor bumps. A couple of years back I gave him a brand new EJ double edge, some astra blades, a tub of proraso sensitive skin shave soap and a cheapo brush to get him going. It cleared up immediately. That's proof right there. Consumers are like sheep, large companies, like Gillette, spend millions on advertising and the sheep watch and follow along. I don't think they can add many, or any more blades to those carts, so it will be interesting to see what they come up with in the future to keep the myth alive.
11-01-2014, 04:42 AM
1OldGI

The current trend seems to be "innovations other than adding a blade". Rolly balls, vibrating heads and the like (gosh that sounds dirty). Of course we know that these are just gimmicks to justify jacking up the price and they'll do it as long as they can get away with it. But at some point it just becomes so bloody ridiculous that even the dullest of gullable consumers begins to see through the nonsense. Thing is, thanks to the marketing juggernaut behind this trash most guys these days are convinced that even a DE safety razor represents a tremendous risk to life, let alone a straight razor.
11-01-2014, 05:24 AM
Grazor

As soon as they put a nose hair trimmer on the other end, I'm all in.
11-01-2014, 09:44 AM
Magpie

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

"We have no circumstantial evidence that multi blade razors cause ingrown hairs" The same clueless dolt quoted above (I'd see your zero circumstantial evidence and raise you a ton of real world testimonials that say likewise.)

Oh, he was telling the truth, you just missed it. He was ABSULUTLY being honest.

no CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence. That is because all the evidence is DIRECTLY proven, and not circumstantial at all!
11-01-2014, 11:45 PM
SRNewb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grazor

As soon as they put a nose hair trimmer on the other end, I'm all in.

Trimmer? What's that? I just reach up and yank the offending ones out. :dropjaw::overkill:
11-01-2014, 11:53 PM
CaliforniaCajun

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

Interesting article about shaving: The Concerns of Shaving - New Orleans Magazine - June 2013 - New Orleans, LA

My comments:

1. $40 for a barber shop shave WITH A MACH 3!? Me and a lot of guys I know would gladly pay $40 to get that razor as far as possible from our faces.

2. 12 Dermatologists surveyed and 100% shave with modern cartridge razors, canned goo, and yes, even electric razors. And these guys are supposed to be experts? Pish says I, nay, I call shennanigans on the lot!

Article #2: Shaving debate hasn’t resolved whether doubled-edged safety razor is best - The Washington Post

"Every time we add a blade, the comfort of the shave increases"- A Gillette paid researcher (just a bit of a bias there)

"We have no circumstantial evidence that multi blade razors cause ingrown hairs" The same clueless dolt quoted above (I'd see your zero circumstantial evidence and raise you a ton of real world testimonials that say likewise.)

Roughly translated this article says, "Hey, stop asking questions and just keep paying whatever we tell you to pay for this garbage. We've released the findings most beneficial to the bottom line of Gillette and they are beyond reproach"

Now maybe I'm getting old and crochety but the traditional gear DOES deliver a better shave, a wolverine does NOT make a great house pet and the Emperor is completely naked. Furthermore, I'm not a huge fan of someone pissing down my back and telling me it's raining!

It was a major revelation in my life to discover just how great shaving was with the old time equipment.
11-01-2014, 11:54 PM
Grazor

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRNewb

Trimmer? What's that? I just reach up and yank the offending ones out. :dropjaw::overkill:

I did try that once, but after pulling the first one out, I couldn't see the others because of all the tears...:cry:
11-02-2014, 12:00 AM
SRNewb

Yeah, it stings a bit. The first one's easy. The rest you find by feel.
11-02-2014, 01:13 AM
1OldGI

Re: Nose hair trimmer- When I was a kid my uncle would often singe errant nose hairs with a butane lighter (now that's hard core). I use a small battery operated gizmo. If I miss a Sunday my ears bear a striking resemblance to the Lord of the manner (an aging male tom cat)

@California Cajun: You and me both brother. I started traditional shaving in 2006 and have wondered why I didn't start sooner every since. It has turned shaving into an indespensible part of each day. Before it was complete drudgery and I relished every day I could avoid it.

FWIW, the Gillette face shaving expert was a woman. I'm not trying to incite a political debate or anything but it would seem that she has about as much credibility as an "expert" in men's shaving as I would being an expert in menstral cramps. There's an old saying "Don't try to describe the scenery if you've never seen it" that comes to mind. Obviously she's tested the hell out of the Mach whatever, the Quivering Fusion and the new Rolly Ball (Dyson model) razor. I wonder if they tested anything like a 1959 Fat Boy, A Merkur Slant or heaven forbid a fixed blade straight razor using the same test criteria. I'd bet they didn't; it would be far too damaging to their pre-determined results.
11-02-2014, 01:18 AM
SRNewb

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

FWIW, the Gillette face shaving expert was a woman. I'm not trying to incite a political debate or anything but it would seem that she has about as much credibility as an "expert" in men's shaving as I would being an expert in menstral cramps. There's an old saying "Don't try to describe the scenery if you've never seen it" that comes to mind. Obviously she's tested the hell out of the Mach whatever, the Quivering Fusion and the new Rolly Ball (Dyson model) razor. I wonder if they tested anything like a 1959 Fat Boy, A Merkur Slant or heaven forbid a fixed blade straight razor using the same test criteria. I'd bet they didn't; it would be far too damaging to their pre-determined results.

Yeah, I'll buy that!
11-02-2014, 01:21 AM
Walterbowens

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Pups

It's common sense. All of it. You just have to remember you are the 1% in this area. You hoard a mass wealth of razors and the knowledge and skills of a lost art. Although you flaunt it publicly the uninitiated have no clue about the true secret. When the time comes we will take over the world. maybe :<0)

:roflmao:roflmao:roflmao:roflmao:roflmao
11-04-2014, 04:56 PM
wayne394

The problem, as always, is money!!! Gillette and such like companies can add a new blade, change the colour and shape of the handle and hey presto... a new razor and they can charge more for it. Add some swish advertising and people are convinced that new razor is so much better than their old one (which isn't actually old 'cos they change the head).

Personally, I'd like to see some of the straight razor makers, Dovo, Boker etc, try some tv advertising. Why not?

Even if some people tried it, decided it wasn't for them, there'd be more second hand beauties for sale!!
11-09-2014, 04:02 PM
Wullie

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

Interesting article about shaving: The Concerns of Shaving - New Orleans Magazine - June 2013 - New Orleans, LA

My comments:

1. $40 for a barber shop shave WITH A MACH 3!? Me and a lot of guys I know would gladly pay $40 to get that razor as far as possible from our faces.

2. 12 Dermatologists surveyed and 100% shave with modern cartridge razors, canned goo, and yes, even electric razors. And these guys are supposed to be experts? Pish says I, nay, I call shennanigans on the lot!

Article #2: Shaving debate hasn’t resolved whether doubled-edged safety razor is best - The Washington Post

"Every time we add a blade, the comfort of the shave increases"- A Gillette paid researcher (just a bit of a bias there)

"We have no circumstantial evidence that multi blade razors cause ingrown hairs" The same clueless dolt quoted above (I'd see your zero circumstantial evidence and raise you a ton of real world testimonials that say likewise.)

Roughly translated this article says, "Hey, stop asking questions and just keep paying whatever we tell you to pay for this garbage. We've released the findings most beneficial to the bottom line of Gillette and they are beyond reproach"

Now maybe I'm getting old and crochety but the traditional gear DOES deliver a better shave, a wolverine does NOT make a great house pet and the Emperor is completely naked. Furthermore, I'm not a huge fan of someone pissing down my back and telling me it's raining!

I find that true, else I wouldn't have a couple of hundred straights laying around in various shades of repair of and disrepair. :rock:
11-09-2014, 05:25 PM
HardCase

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10Pups

It's common sense. All of it. You just have to remember you are the 1% in this area. You hoard a mass wealth of razors and the knowledge and skills of a lost art. Although you flaunt it publicly the uninitiated have no clue about the true secret. When the time comes we will take over the world. maybe :<0)

Now I see why this group exists a few hoarders and then new guys come in and buy at a premium what the hoarders pick out of the trash..... Umm I'm going to check the classifieds be back later!