Gebruder Weyersberg numbering system

Does anyone one know what the numbers mean on the Gebruder Weyersberg razors? This is not my razor, I need to take pics and post, but mine is this brand with this stamp and is marked 2. Scales have a horse and carriage and the blade is etched electrica legitimas or something close. Attachment 196729

I found info on the company, helped date it a bit. I was hoping the number may give me a better date. I think it is around 1925 based on it says Soligen-Ohligs.

I am very interested regardless of date what the numbers mean though. I see them online in the hundreds and up to 6000, but no low numbers like mine 2.

Attachment 196746 hope this works from a tablet. This is my razor.

What I can tell you is that "corneta" means hornet in Portuguese, and is the brand under which they were sold in Brazil (maybe also in Portugal). Corneta razors are by far the most common on flea markets and antique shops here in Brazil, followed by Heljes, Filarmonicas, an occasional Puma and swedish-looking but poor-finished "Cruzeiros" made on swedish steel (Aço Sueco) - maybe popular-priced Swedish items. British and USA makers are "white flies".

Mine does not say corneta on it anywhere. Where all the weyersberg razors corneta?

I assume not. Corneta must be just a brand directed towards Luso-Brazilian market. Several German manufacturers where pretty popular in Brazil since imperial times. Brazil always kept excellent relationships with Germany, that faded away just before WWII, pushed by the pressure of allies upon our populist-fascist dictator Getulio Vargas, who went horny by the Reich. After WWII the Brazil-Germany relations reheated again.

In english the word translates as a 'cornet' similar to a hunting bugle, both are like small trumpets.

Gebruder (= 'brothers" or "bros" = Johan-Ludwig, Peter and Wilhelm) Weyersburg have had the mark for a very long time:

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Geb. Weyersberg was formed in 1787 to make knives, weapons, tools, etc, in Solingen, Germany - this was following Napoleon's breaking-up of the Solingen guild system to allow free trade (Solingen was once occupied by Napoleon and became a part of France for a short while). They wanted expansion though and Central and South America appeared attractive, so they made name-brands especially for that market. Colombia became the main base and sometime after WW1 a colombian family asked for partnership in the Geb, Weyersberg company. That is why we see tools like machetes marked with the 'Corneta' name.

Regards,
Neil

So just because it has the bugle mark does not make it a Corneta then? It would say Corneta on it?
Still no one has any idea about the numbering system on these razors? I don't know why but the fact that mine is marked 2 makes me wonder.
Also the article on them from strazors say they moved to Soligen-Ohligs in 1909, but in the begining it says Soligen-Ohligs(1925). Does that mean they didn't put it on their blades till 1925, or was it between 1909-1925 that it was on the blade which would give me a good age range for mine?

I don't think anyone knows what the numbering systems mean on any razor.Look at all the highend Japanese westerns,they all have differant numbers,Look at the spanish razors (filis) 12,13.14,what do they denote? Nobody seems to know.
Sort of like the barbers notch.Another unknown.

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Attachment 196746 hope this works from a tablet. This is my razor.

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Off topic, but can we get better pics of your storage cases? They look nice.... did you buy them or modify something?

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Attachment 196746 hope this works from a tablet. This is my razor.

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If ever there was a razor for the Spanish-speaking market this would be one! After Neil's revelations, I feel it is a bit earlier than those with 'Coroneta' emblazoned.
Perhaps as Weyersberg first began to export to Spanish markets?

As to numbering. Here is a #6172. Go figure! :p

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Yeah it may have been. Who knows wish I could ask my Grandfather, but he died about 22 years ago. He worked for the Corp of engineers building damns and lived all over the world because of it. So it could have come from down there. Although I think the box was in french. I could be wrong I will have to look at that this evening.

57vert. I will try and get some pics of the cigar boxs. I didn't like the quality of the last pic from my tablet so it may take me a while. They are both cigar boxes though one was free at local cigar shop I just added black velvet to the middle bottom. It had little holders for the the cigars already. The other is a ebay buy and it had trays already in it. If you look up the brand My fathers cigar with trays limited edition it is one of their boxes. Just did a google search and images and people use them for pen storage so you can get good images there. I made sure I got one that holds 6 1/2" cigars because i have some large razors.

57vert here are pic of cases. Attachment 196936Attachment 196937Attachment 196938Attachment 196939Attachment 196940

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57vert here are pic of cases. Attachment 196936Attachment 196937Attachment 196938Attachment 196939Attachment 196940

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Looks like a great way to store razors that are not in regular rotation. This would be helpful to sort by manufacturer, region, or what every.
Thanks