Manufacturing Period Range Help.

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08-25-2015, 02:55 AM
Abarnett

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Manufacturing Period Range Help.

Greetings from Chile:

I have got 4 german straight razors, that i already restored, now i have found the typical info on their brands, but haven't found an estimates period on where these were made.

Also, does the numbers on the blade are correlated? meaning a model 100 is older than a 300 i.e.?

Here are the pics, Any help, links or knowledge on this razors will be much much apprecciated.

I restored them all, with walnut burl scales, 950 silver pins, brass washers. Polished the metal, re honed and re sharpen up to Shapton 12000.

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The First One with the box reads: 105 FRIEDR. HERDER ABR. SOHN SOLINGEN-GERMANY (plus the crossed keys and spike) On the other side ther is just the crossed keys logo.

The Middle one reads: 300 FRIEDR. ERC & C° WEYER-SOLINGEN, on the other side there is the logo of a double headed bird on top of a razor, plus "SOLINGEN"

The one on the bottom reads: ERN, and on the blade it self "EXTRA HOLLOW GROUND MAGNETIC", on the other side has the well known crown and sword logo, plus WALD-SOLINGEN and the number 2288

Here the Restored Pics from Both Sides:

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Any help on ther rarity, age and other usefull info.
08-27-2015, 03:03 AM
criswilson10

If the country of origin is stamped on the blade, Germany for instance, then it is after 1891. If no country of origin is listed then it is likely pre 1891.

The numbers in your case are model numbers.

Freidrick Herder has been in Solingen since 1727. Very old company that has made a lot of razors and other sharp objects.
Good shavers.

Does the middle one perhaps say C. Friedr. Ern & Co? It's another common Ern razor. Good shavers.

Ern was a popular brand. Good shavers. 1873 to 1940 I think.
STRAZORS.com - all about classic razors - Carl Friedrich ERN, Solingen-Wald.

I would say they are all late 1800s, early 1900s. The one labelled ERN is probably the oldest based on the stubby tail. The Herder is probably the newest and early 1900s. The C. Friedr. is probably 1880s.

I wouldn't say that any of them are all that rare, but they are all excellent, vintage Solingen razors.
08-27-2015, 03:05 AM
criswilson10

Oh, and welcome to SRP!
Nice job on the rescales, I love walnut burl.
08-27-2015, 03:28 AM
Abarnett

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Thanks

Thanks for your reply, here a closer look. No C. On the one you asked. And i havent found online another ones with these model numbers (105, 300 or 2288)

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08-28-2015, 11:58 PM
Abarnett

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And how about this weird Rich Abr Herder, solingen model 133. Blade has golden design with R. A. Herder .....ANZA

And the scale has that weird shape that goes inside to other plastic part like a traveller's model?

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08-29-2015, 10:00 AM
charlie48horlogerie

Typical razors from the 1920 1930 area, the ERN not worth the restauration IMHO
08-29-2015, 03:21 PM
Aldwyn

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Originally Posted by charlie48horlogerie

Typical razors from the 1920 1930 area, the ERN not worth the restauration IMHO

I would agree with this. I wouldn't put too many hours into it. While I like how its turned itself in a natural shorty (maybe had some help with those lines?) and I think it looks cool, that crazy spine wear on it is going to make it a PitA to hone well.
08-31-2015, 07:47 AM
engine46

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Originally Posted by charlie48horlogerie

Typical razors from the 1920 1930 area, the ERN not worth the restauration IMHO

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Originally Posted by Aldwyn

I would agree with this. I wouldn't put too many hours into it. While I like how its turned itself in a natural shorty (maybe had some help with those lines?) and I think it looks cool, that crazy spine wear on it is going to make it a PitA to hone well.

The FRIEDR HERDER ABR SOHN is most likely late 1800's early 1900's & is a good straight razor. The FRIEDR ERN & CO, WEYER SOLINGEN is
1920-present & a good straight razor but if it were C. FRIEDR ERN & CO, it would have been made from 1873-present & also a good one.

About the ERN they mention above, it has a lot of hone wear & was most likely cracked or chipped at the heel which is the reason for the odd shaped blade & really wasn't worth restoring but it's too late unless you could use the scales on another straight razor. Nice work by the way!
08-31-2015, 07:52 AM
engine46

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Originally Posted by Abarnett

And how about this weird Rich Abr Herder, solingen model 133. Blade has golden design with R. A. Herder .....ANZA

And the scale has that weird shape that goes inside to other plastic part like a traveller's model?

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This one has seen a lot of use but appears to still be usable & could be honed & be a good shaver. The company was made by Richard Abraham Herder from 1885-present.