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I was doing a bit of a clean up on this blade and noticed it was marked "Solinzen". I assume it's Solingen written in another language but I'm not sure what language it is. A search for Solinzen turned up nothing. Any ideas?
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A mis stamp maybe?
Bob
I found this:
Iron Age - Volume 62 - Page 80 - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com/books?id=Fy6JtCJqFC0C
1898 - Hardware
Solinzen, Germany. Pocket Knives. Scissors. Carded & Glass Case Assortments. A. Lacroix Fils, Montol-Thiers. France. “ Cook ” Sabatier, Kitchen and Butcher ...
Also a mention of Solinzen steel in a recount of the Battle of Gettysburg.
My first thought was that it could have been a mistake but the box has the same spelling. I also can't see a Solingen maker misspelling Solingen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobH
Yea, since it is also spelled that way on the box then the simple answer of miss stamped is out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeJay
As there is no German town by the name of Solinzen, at least in my web searches, could it be that it is an older form of the spelling of Solingen?
Bob
I think Razorfeld's answer eliminates the need for speculation.
Is the blade missing a "Germany" stamp? Here may be a lead.
西洋剃刀　SOLINZEN　ゾーリンゲン　122 3L9r※ - Kimonodo5 - ヤフオク!
Also
https://www.jauce.com/auction/o116805546Attachment 224568
I had seen the Gettysburg reference too but figured it was a misspelling. I can't seem to find anything on the maker "Hunman" either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razorfeld
There are no Germany markings on the razor or the box. Could this be a knockoff?
The second link that wirm posted has a knife with "hunter Solinzen" etched on the blade. That knife is also stamped USA.
I did a Google search for Hunman and came up with an English actor by that name. Could have been a German name to start with and some moved to England.
As for the box, the odds are not very good for the box to be the original one when the razor was packaged. They are another story in and of itself with some collectors only interested in the box. I wouldn't be surprised if there were collectors around that specialize only in toothpicks. I know there are avid barbed wire collectors.
We, as humans, are always going off in weird directions as far as personal interests. Just found out that my brilliant 10 year old granddaughter back east has started a collection of pet rocks that she makes dresses for. Come to think of it, the old adage of the apple not falling far from the tree might just be a truism and not an adage when I think of some of the unusual items I collected as a kid and young adult (and no I am not going to enlarge on that if asked, the past is the past and I have enough struggle with the shaving AD's as it is.)
Almost sounds like whomever is making these is using a deliberately close spelling to Solingen to cause some confusion as Solingen has always had a reputation for quality products.
Bob
K99K also is written similar to K55K stamped on Kaufmann (currently Otter Messer) Mercator knives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfFZbXBhBf0
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Originally Posted by BobH
Bobburry Coats
There have been lots of near forgeries over the years.
I remember Nonna (old times fashionist) also had a pair of "Solange" (a common Portuguese female name) scissors, too lousy to serve as working tool, so it was used to cut spaguetti and gnocchi. She used to swear a lot and get dramatic when my little brother and I assaulted the kitchen to steal uncooked gnocchi before lunch time. :p Good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
I have seen this spelling occasionally on old carpentry tools made in the US with Solingen steel and in several old books from the US and Britain.
I have heard two good reasons for this misspelling:
1. Up until the 1940s, Germany was using a gothic style alphabet instead of the Roman alphabet. The gothic German g looks very much like the Roman script z. So an uneducated person could very easily mistranslate the spelling especially if they were translating from poor handwriting. Personally, I'm surprised I haven't seen it spelled Golingen because the capital gothic G and capital gothic S look almost identical.
2. It was a marketing ploy to make the item seem more exotic. That doesn't explain why you see it misspelled in texts though.
Another possible clue on this razor is the etching. The etching on the blade(not on tang) is reasonably deep with a gold color to it. I'll ad a better pic when I get a chance. This gold color seems to be a fairly common on Japanese blades. The other two blades I've found with "Solinzen" were both on Japanese auction sites.
Maybe it is advertising for the state of zen that you achieve when using Solingen steel.
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I'm pretty confident now that it's a Japanese blade. I saw this one marked HUNTER SOLINZEN. The reverse sideis marked "FOR BARBERS' USE FIRST QUALITY". I've seen this stamped on many Japanese blades.
