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    not to argue with the experts but; it's seem i remember reading that a real frame back is one that has the tang and spine made of one piece of metal with a blade inserted and a faux one has the blade and spine made of one piece of steel with the spine inserted over the top?

    If not, than is there a different term for them?
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    Here y'all..!!

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    One thing that helps me make sense of the confusion is to apply what I know of modern advertising... and then apply the concept that there's nothing new under the son.

    Advertisers are a dubious bunch! And so its hard to know which companies were simply using a catchy popular name to sell more razors.
    Shavers back then were probably at times saying "uh, no, that's not a rattler, that's a space station!!!"

    BUT I guess its also an assumption to presume they had fully standardized terms for the grinds back then..?
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    I gave up on the "Rattler" designation after I saw a Double Hollow stamped "Rattler Razor" it made zero sense after that basically near every grind had a razor called Rattler

    To my eyes, there are 4 different Framebacks

    #1 Removable Blade True Frameback
    #2 Non-Removable Blade True Frameback
    #3 Solid blade and tang with an added spine Faux Frameback
    #4 Longitudinal ground Faux Frameback



    That keeps it all straight for my OCD brain
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    That makes more sense to me, Glen.
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    That explains it. Thanks Glen.
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    Another thing to help explain ‘rattler’: it was a description of the sound the razor made when shaving. So any razor that made a loud noise when shaving was, to the ear of the 19th century shaver, a rattler. It’s a case of usage changing a little bit. Now rattle implies a very un-shaving-like action, whereas up until the advent of radio, roughly, it was more of a word describing a sound (radio, and ‘static’ seems to have been a pressure on word usage if you look at a Google NGram of the two words, but the correlation is weak).
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    that was the explanation I understood also Zak

    It Rattled over the beard..
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    Thanks guys, now I'm totally confused. All this time I thought a Rattler was a poisonous snake.....he! he!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoughBoy68 View Post
    Thanks guys, now I'm totally confused. All this time I thought a Rattler was a poisonous snake.....he! he!
    These rattlers can also bite. Sometimes they bite before rattling!

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