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10-05-2018, 10:21 AM #11
not to argue with the experts but; it's seem i remember reading that a real frame back is one that has the tang and spine made of one piece of metal with a blade inserted and a faux one has the blade and spine made of one piece of steel with the spine inserted over the top?
If not, than is there a different term for them?Last edited by tintin; 10-05-2018 at 10:29 AM.
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10-05-2018, 11:41 AM #12
Here y'all..!!
Mike
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10-05-2018, 12:13 PM #13
One thing that helps me make sense of the confusion is to apply what I know of modern advertising... and then apply the concept that there's nothing new under the son.
Advertisers are a dubious bunch! And so its hard to know which companies were simply using a catchy popular name to sell more razors.
Shavers back then were probably at times saying "uh, no, that's not a rattler, that's a space station!!!"
BUT I guess its also an assumption to presume they had fully standardized terms for the grinds back then..?“You must unlearn what you have learned.”
– Yoda
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10-05-2018, 03:03 PM #14
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Thanked: 13223I gave up on the "Rattler" designation after I saw a Double Hollow stamped "Rattler Razor" it made zero sense after that basically near every grind had a razor called Rattler
To my eyes, there are 4 different Framebacks
#1 Removable Blade True Frameback
#2 Non-Removable Blade True Frameback
#3 Solid blade and tang with an added spine Faux Frameback
#4 Longitudinal ground Faux Frameback
That keeps it all straight for my OCD brain"No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
Very Respectfully - Glen
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10-05-2018, 03:24 PM #15
That makes more sense to me, Glen.
Mike
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10-05-2018, 04:31 PM #16
That explains it. Thanks Glen.
It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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10-05-2018, 05:13 PM #17
Another thing to help explain ‘rattler’: it was a description of the sound the razor made when shaving. So any razor that made a loud noise when shaving was, to the ear of the 19th century shaver, a rattler. It’s a case of usage changing a little bit. Now rattle implies a very un-shaving-like action, whereas up until the advent of radio, roughly, it was more of a word describing a sound (radio, and ‘static’ seems to have been a pressure on word usage if you look at a Google NGram of the two words, but the correlation is weak).
-Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.
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10-05-2018, 07:59 PM #18
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Thanked: 13223that was the explanation I understood also Zak
It Rattled over the beard.."No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
Very Respectfully - Glen
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10-05-2018, 08:04 PM #19
Thanks guys, now I'm totally confused. All this time I thought a Rattler was a poisonous snake.....he! he!
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10-06-2018, 04:17 PM #20