Does anyone know what Theirs Issard does with seconds (razors that are not perfect)? Do they mark them in some way and sell them at a reduced price of do they destroy them? I have seen some lately that look like the profile is not perfect at heel.
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Does anyone know what Theirs Issard does with seconds (razors that are not perfect)? Do they mark them in some way and sell them at a reduced price of do they destroy them? I have seen some lately that look like the profile is not perfect at heel.
There's many posts by members describing the troubles they have getting the edge right on a TI. So maybe seconds get sold as good ones.
TI’s are beautiful. Nice mirror finishing and etchings with fancy scales. If you get a good specimen they can be great. Alas, I have seen my fair share of wide and uneven bevels on some, including a very expensive Oak Wing I once bought several years ago. Fortunately the seller refunded me. Not sure how the quality of TI is these days, but I consider them more of a display item than a razor I would want to shave with.
To be fair, quality control issues exist with all factory made razors, including custom razors. Which is why I won’t buy a razor unless I see pictures of the one that is actually going to be sent to me. I have even seen serious grinding mistakes on sealed NOS vintage razors from reputable makers.
Thanks. I was talking about the profile from tang around heel to edge. It should be a graceful curve but lately I have seen some that are a double curve.
I have one, which I bought new and unseen about five years ago. Easy enough to correct (which I did) and it's now a great razor but the buyer shouldn't have to do this. I've not heard of others until now and all other T.I.s I've seen don't have this - so I'm guessing it is/was the 'style' of one particular grinder (?)
Thank you. Someone showed the razor they ordered and I thought it had a chip near the heel. We went back and forth and he posted photos of several razors all similar. Just struck me as not a normal profile. I just did not want to see the person get a razor that was not first quality. As we know T.I. razors are not cheap. He was confident in the seller so I did not go any further. So long as he was happy with his purchase that is all that matters.
Thanks again
Lynn Abrams, who has honed a lot of razors, once told me that TI workmanship is questionable. Furthermore, workmanship on their more expensive models is not necessarily any better than than on the least expensive models.
I do like the TI Carbonsong steel. It is difficult to hone, but holds its edge well.
The grinding is frequently uneven. I have two 11/16 quarter hollows that are perfect. I have two 7/8 near full hollows that the bevels are wavy and wide, at least on one side. The rest of the workmanship is fine. I also like the C-135 steel, hard but takes and holds a fine edge.
Thank you all for your responses. It only supports what I was thinking. I have honed quite a few T.I. razors for people. Sounds were uneven. Had to polish out water spots or rust. That's why I prefer vintage English razors. Can't beat the steel. I refresh my 8 razor rotation only once a year. I try to talk newbies out of purchasing a new razor to start because they are overpriced. Don't care if they buy from me or another member but I tell them to buy vintage shave ready. Less expensive and better quality.