Ahhhh but what you don't understand is that a newly forged razor blank looks damn near like a razor. They run them through the double wheel setup and don't take anywhere near the metal off that you might think. that is why quarter hollow razors are hard to find. They have to start with a quarter hollow blank. For a full hollow ground razor they have a full hollow blank. This was mass production basically - not like the custom razors guys are making for us now.