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I bought this Marshes&Shepherd (1818-1850) some weeks ago, with the conviction that the blade was in its original state, without hone wear. Note that the spine has no hone wear at all. I bid on this: the blade has an uncommon but original geometry.
Yesterday I found one proof that I wasn't wrong: Lummus published in his first article (1922) a blade by the same manufacturer with the same shape!
:rock:
If my memory serves me right, Seraphim had a similarly shaped Marshian, too.
Now THAT is cool. I like it. I like it a LOT. I wonder if the geometry lent itself to a good scything stroke? Seems like it might...
There have been Marshians on the earth and they left their razors????:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by sparq
Even though this razor has little to no hone wear, I think that some razors wear hone wear as a mark of distinction. It shows that the razor has a history of use and allows me to feel a conection to the past.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/galle...as-landed.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Chimensch
One interesting style of blade, common in the late thirties, had the heel wider than the toe, the back showing a corresponding variance in thickness so that the blade would lie flat on the hone. [Lummus, cit. article]Quote:
Originally Posted by JimR
Also note the W R mark on the shank of Seraphim's blade (William IV: 1830-1837).
Great razor, really!
Hmmm... I wonder if the idea behind that is a similar idea to the one behind the Merkur Slant.
What I mean is, that even though the razor is shaped differently, you use the same stroke you normally would, but the different shape produces different (better?) results.
Well, blades wider at the toe are very common and in those cases the angle spine/bevel could be the same of this Marshes (just with a different sign). So this shape is not a revolution in the honing technique. I think it was just a different fashion or a new idea to sell new razors or a distinguishing mark introduced by a manufacturer and then transformed in fashion for just a short period. Or different combination of those ideas.
EDIT: Also, blades wider at the toe often are thicker at the corresponding part of the spine. Same as stated here by Lummus.
I did indeed have a Marshes & Shepard that I modified (one of my very first forrays...) into The Marshian.
I had also thought that shape to be a result of 150 years worth of strange honing (which is why I deemed the balde to be of little practical value, and thus was the frist to visit my Frankenstienian dremel laboratory...)
However, I too have now seen 2-3 other Marshes and Shappards with the same thumbnotch, and the same tapered blade shape.
Thanks so much for posting that info, as it has laid that quandry to rest once and for all. I owe Bill Ellis an apology!:ziplip:
I have since sold The Marshian, but it was a damn fine shaver! Really, super-smooth feel to that steel.
I just picked up what looks like a 7/8ths marshes&shepherd with a barbers notch that says 'cutlers to his majesty' on the blade. Where can I find some history on these blades?Quote:
Originally Posted by clavichord
That does look odd, but I took a look at my M&S tonight and while it's not that pronounced, it does have a slight "slant" to the blade in that general shape...
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Clavichord you said that blades wider at the toe are very common, but as yet I have only seen/had one:-Quote:
Originally Posted by clavichord
Karl Bocker No.63 11/16 toe and 9/16 heel
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Is this what you are refering to?
You guys should note that this thread was from 5/2009.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonitomio
Yep I missed that :gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joed
Did it arrive yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by clavichord
