Caution Thiers-Issard Mis-Marked Eagle Brand Razors

Just a Heads Up for anyone considering on buying one of the Thiers-Issard Eagle Brand razors #J-86 for $234.95 with Red Staminawood Handle from the Knife Center, this model is not a large 7/8 blade that I and some of you on here like to use, in fact it is a small 6/8". I ordered this razor for my son for a Christmas present and when it arrived I knew something was wrong as soon as I opened it for inspection, and after I measured it I found it was just a little under 3/4" and was much smaller then my other 2 Thiers-Issard 7/8 razors. This razor is clearly marked 7/8" on the web site and on the factory box it comes in but the blade isn't. I called the Knife Center and they confirmed that they are indeed the smaller 6/8" blade but this is how Thiers-Issard sent them out (Badged as 7/8"), I sent it back and they gave me a full refund and now I noticed that they have changed the description as 3/4 to 7/8 and below they state that these razors are made from old forgings and the blade size can vary from 3/4" to 7/8".

Just so everyone know I did a little investigation and it turns out that Thiers-Issard makes this same exact razor for different sellers in Europe and they are marked and sold as having a 6/8" blade.

I have the Spartacus and Glen has the Eagle, they are slanted 6/8-7/8 heel-toe.
I do not know if your other TI's are of those historical forgings, but they are marvelous shavers.

Aye !!!

Right here is the thread

http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...ish-point.html


and here is the finished razor after I re-did it to my specs...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/custo...ersion-ti.html



Not saying that yers wasn't a wrong one, but mine was fine, with the same vendor and numbers on the box

Yep, I bought the "Fox and Rooster" version. Mine is 7/8 at the toe end and 6/8 at the heel. Shaves great. Looks great.

I was aware of the 6/8 vs 7/8 confusion before I bought it, but your caution is good for those that may not be.

Here is the way Martin as RasurPur describes it:
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Here is the box label from Rasurpur:

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I could kick myself in the @ss for sending it back because there was nothing wrong with it except it wasn't the larger full 7/8" blade like he wanted, and as far as the fit and finish went T-I did a good job on it and now that I'm thinking about it I wish I would have kept it for myself:gaah:.

I wish I knew about how old these blades are.

I e-mailed Rasurpur and asked. Just got the reply...Martin said:
It is hard to say but at least 50-70 years with the Festonné.

Hmmmm, I'm in that same range myself.

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Originally Posted by matt321

I e-mailed Rasurpur and asked. Martin said:
It is hard to say but at least 50-70 years with the Festonné.

Hmmmm, I'm in that same range myself.

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LOL, very nice!


I have had multiple vintage razors from Thiers-Issard, LeGrelot, and Dovo with the exact same model number and razor/scales design but rather different size. If you're interested in example I think I uploaded both of my Dovo Favorit no.10 in the wiki razor database.
Moreover I was very puzzled to find that the current TI Evide Sonnant Extra is nowhere near full hollow, not to speak of the singing hollow it is supposed to be.

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Originally Posted by gugi

LOL, very nice!
Moreover I was very puzzled to find that the current TI Evide Sonnant Extra is nowhere near full hollow, not to speak of the singing hollow it is supposed to be.

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gugi,

So it's maybe, gasp, a half hollow? Shades of glory, man; this could lead to a TI stampede. Where's my checkbook? Where's the plastic? Heck, I'll even use cash. :bow

I just love it when moderators cast a few pearls before us swine

I consider it essentially half hollow, but here's a picture of the profile
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_rQyZbP-n9YM/Sx...0/IMG_9303.JPG

It just wasn't what I wanted, that's why I no longer own it, the new owner seemed rather happy upon receiving it, but he saw the photographs of the exact item along with this profile photo before buying it. I saw one more of this model that looked exactly the same, so I suspect that's what the current production is. I should take a photo of an old extra hollow TI I have to serve as comparison.
I often wish the manufacturers and vendors would provide better descriptions of their products, so that we as customers know what we're buying.

so Thiers-Issard doesn't make new blanks anymore?

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Originally Posted by mainaman

I have the Spartacus and Glen has the Eagle, they are slanted 6/8-7/8 heel-toe.
I do not know if your other TI's are of those historical forgings, but they are marvelous shavers.

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The Thiers-Issard that I sent back to The Knife Center was 6/8 from heel-toe and it didn't have a slant in it like some they have sold in the past. I have seen the one blade design you are talking about and the batch that the Knife Center is now selling aren't slanted like those, but who know maybe the person in the shipping dept at T-I had too much wine and got the boxes mix up:). Oh well its water over the Dam and now Ive got my eye on a new 15/16 Wacker at the Shave-Shop.

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Originally Posted by Warbler

so Thiers-Issard doesn't make new blanks anymore?

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They sell newly forged razors, and they also sell razors made from their stock of old forged blanks.

The Festonne may be one of the best production razors made by TI. I bought this one:

Laguiole - Couteau Laguiole, cadeau personnalise, couteau laguiole de fabrication française

about two years age from the French vendor Laguiole. As described it is from 100 year old blanks while it is listed as 6/8's it measures almost 7/8's. The balance is perfect and the edge it takes is extremely sharp and comfortable. The wtg first pass is almost a complete shave. I have almost a dozen TI's and LeGrelots which are also great shavers including the 1/4 hollow LG and C135 TIs. The Festonne outshaves them all.

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Originally Posted by matt321

Here is the box label from Rasurpur:

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I've just looked in the up-to-date TI list and that stock code is a bit different to the one now in use - maybe it's been in stock a while? The nearest code I can find is HDOSFESTL-6/8-188-A-NCR which is described as "Historic forged decorated back 6/8-7/8" razor hollowed, 'long' decoration with hooked nose"

I have in stock the red stamina scaled version and this is coded HDOSFES68188STRNCR and is definitely marked 6/8-7/8. This came in some two weeks back.

Still a damned good piece though, whatever the code!

My French sourced razor is coded as follows: HDOSFETL68188ANCRF-B. The label says HistoriQue 6/8 DOS FESTONNE LONG NEZ CROCHU BISON DORE AMOURETTE. As I mentioned, it measures almost 7/8.

I've always had these described as 6/8" - 7/8" on my site.