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I just scored a Nice (to me anyway) "H. Boker & CO" "King Cutter" with the tree looking like the 1924-35 era. The scales are broken but at $10 I wasn't arguing :) I have a set of scales with the tree pressing in them but wanted to know if the time lines fit. Was this scale ever put on this time period blade?
Very interesting question and it gave me some eyestrain counting branches!
In Goins' there are two Boker Tree timeline photos. One of them is for the tang stamps. Two of the tang stamps look like the one on your blade: it is either the 1900 or the 1915. Both have a "bump" as the first thing you see on the right side of the trunk moving up. The 1907 can't be yours because it has a short branch as the first marking on the right side of the trunk. The only difference between the 1900 and 1915 trees is that the 1915 tree looks more solid. I believe your razor has the 1915 stamp. The tree on your scales is identical to the ones on my two Red Injuns, and I would bet those scales came off a Red Injun. Now, for your main question: are the scales appropriate to the King Cutter blade? I can't say for sure. I have only owned two King Cutters. Neither one had the tree on the scales, and both had plain black Bakelite scales. I have seen photos of King Cutters with light colored celluloid scales with a silver tree set into the scales. I have never seen or heard of a King Cutter with the typical Red Injun scales as yours appear to be. So, unless someone with more knowledge than I have (and there are many!) chimes in with a photo of a King Cutter with a black embossed Tree, I have to say no, they don't match.
May be, this picture will be helpful.
http://www.strazors.com/uploads/images/boker_logo_3.jpg
My opinion, the blade was made before 1900, the scales - 1924-1935.
Ya know I didn't even see that bump... this is only the second boker I ever had. The one I got these scales from is the one i sent to Butch for him to play with and study grinds when he was thinking of making razors, I may still have pics somewhere. But it was a boker with a tree on it. I'llpost it here if I find the pic.
Well than I don't have to take the scales off my Bell Belfast now :) But I do need to find some scales that will fit this bugger lol...
Haven't found it yet... Don't know if I posted it here long ago or not...
I just googled this razor, as I just found one at a flea market and gave $12 for it. The front scale is broken on mine and I was wondering where you got the extra scales you talked about in your post. I would love to get another set of scales so I could have it restored to original condition. My razor has the same scales as yours.
I picked up a H. Boker at an antique store the other day with heavy patina and a warpped scale for $24. Did a quick clean up with mothers tarnish remover and some honing it shaves well. But my question is the stamp looks like the 1900-1924 but it has a few less branches maybe 3-5 (hard to see) and theres no words underneath. Would mine be made in 1900-1924?Quote:
Originally Posted by manah
Also does anyone know the type of metal is used?
If it really was made between 1900-1924 it would be super cool to know im shaving with a razor almost a 100 years older than me.
Welcome to SRP.
Carbon steel.Quote:
Also does anyone know the type of metal is used?
And it'll be interesting to see your razor.
Attachment 83252Attachment 83249Attachment 83250Attachment 83251Attachment 83251Oh absolutely Sorry for one of the pictures came out blurry. I still got some patina and white tarnish on it. I'll probably work on it once i find a nice replacement scale that best matches the original.Quote:
Originally Posted by manah
I would use the old except there deep scrap, extreme warping (i can't close the blade)
Ya i so need to get a better camera:(
Basing on the stamp, the razor was made 1920s-1930s.
It's very nice razor.
[QUOTE=Croaker;629445] I have seen photos of King Cutters with light colored celluloid scales with a silver tree set into the scales. QUOTE]
Here's an example of these scales. Oddly, there is no tree anywhere on this blade, so i hope the 1926 is an accurate year and not some sort of model number. Can anyone verify that?
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Of course, the tree was struck by lightning and burned in 1925.:rofl2:Quote:
there is no tree anywhere on this blade
I don't think so.Quote:
the 1926 is an accurate year
Why not?Quote:
not some sort of model number
:rofl2: Good one Manah!
As too hoping the 1926 is a year vs. model number, it would just be easier to date since there isn't a tree on the blade. I had never seen the trademark chart posted earlier. :D
First of all, in 1925, the chestnut tree which inspired the "Tree Brand", was struck by lightning and burned. It's a historical fact.
As for me, I'm sure, "1926" isn't the year of production.
I saw Boker razors without "tree", that were made before and after 1926.
This brings up a question on my boker. I recently aquired a king cutter with the tree stamped in the tang, boker co. and No.1926 below that. I just assumed this was the year of manufacture but now I'm thinking I may be mistaken. Can anyone give any insight on this one?
I've spent some time.
And I've found it.:)
There were the "King Cutter" models with catalog numbers 1925 and 1926.
From H.Boker catalog, 1906:
Regarding the "Tree Brand" stamping .... back in the early 1960s I knew 'grownups' ..... I was a kid ..... who carried a pocketknife. Boker "Tree Brand" was a very prestigious marque among some of the country boys I knew. They referred to them as 'Tree' knives. I'm just wondering if some entrepreneur in the USA didn't take hold of that fact and have a run of Tree Brand razors made to take advantage of the aforementioned prestige ? IOW, just stamped with that phrase. Same line of thinking that got Pike, or maybe it was American Hone Co ... to make a hone embossed "Three Line Hone" because of the popularity among barbers of the 3 line Swaty.
I'm sorry to revive this topic of its too old, however i do have a quetios that might be stupid, but here it goes... i have aldo a king cutter that has the very same logo that was posted at the begining of this thread.... the blade has a " king cutter registered trade mark" in golden etched and the logo of the is identical... black plane backelite scales and it also says only: "H.Boker (fisrt line) &Co (second line). I will try to add some pics tomorrow.... the thing is that it does not say solingen anywhere... does this mean that it was made in solingen lie other bokers? And at the end this was made 1900 or 1915? :)
Thanks a lot folks!!!
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EDIT: here are the pictures:
https://s11.postimg.org/rzaosoqwf/Boker_KC_1.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/yr5p9a59r/Boker_KC_2.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/9z6321o33/Boker_KC_3.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/plxcff1v3/Boker_KC_4.jpg
https://s11.postimg.org/x36jumre7/Boker_KC_5.jpg
How about mine ? This was my great Grand father's razor Plain black scales. Thanks in advance Attachment 342859Attachment 342860
What a wonderful thing to have, an heirloom razor. That’s a really good razor. Have Glen or Alfredo restore it and hone it for you, and remember your grandfather every time that you use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawdust1980
